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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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rayzablades2
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Location: Miami, FL Joined: 04.24.2011
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GARTH: Sabres Bolster Their Net Depth - garth
Garth,
Nobody cares about this guy's "faith." Tim Tebow is sooo last year.
What role is this kid gonna play? I know nothing about him. Is he gonna be in Rochester? Is he a potential pro-goalie? That's what I want to know - not what god he worships.
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Garth,
Nobody cares about this guy's "faith." Tim Tebow is sooo last year.
What role is this kid gonna play? I know nothing about him. Is he gonna be in Rochester? Is he a potential pro-goalie? That's what I want to know - not what god he worships. - rayzablades2
The irony is one of our goalies played a great game in the tournament, not named Miller, and got no mention in the blog
(waits for a kane love fest blog) |
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rayzablades2
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Miami, FL Joined: 04.24.2011
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The irony is one of our goalies played a great game in the tournament, not named Miller, and got no mention in the blog
(waits for a kane love fest blog) - homiedclown
I would have appreciated a blog about that. That would have been interesting.
But I guess a good ol' Canadian boy who reads the bible is more important.
Anyways, I guess Garth's blog here was a way to push Jesus and a goaltending debate. I'll bite for the latter: as far as trading Enroth goes - why? Miller's contract is up in 2 years, so trading your best goalie prospect now is ridiculous unless the return is very strong. And Jordan Staal is not that.
If Miller extends, ok. But if not, somebody has to guard the net. So trading away goalies is not a solid move, in my opinion.
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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Way too much for Staal. This is a guy that will be a UFA, Pens know they won't be able to resign him, and it's rumored he wants to play with his brother. His points aren't bad, but when you're the 3rd line center, you're not playing against the teams' top d-pairings. This year was the first time he's been the #2 guy, and had 50 points. He did only play 62 games, but he has never hit 50 points before playing in 82 games. In contrast, in 06-07 Roy had 21g, 42a being the 3rd line C behind those other two guys. The following year he did have 32g, 49a moving to the #1 C. I think Staal will definitely be better than Roy, but you are giving up too much. Also, if Enroth were to be traded, I would send him out West. Sabres don't do so hot against ex-Sabres, and the least we have to face him the better. |
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Way too much for Staal. This is a guy that will be a UFA, Pens know they won't be able to resign him, and it's rumored he wants to play with his brother. His points aren't bad, but when you're the 3rd line center, you're not playing against the teams' top d-pairings. This year was the first time he's been the #2 guy, and had 50 points. He did only play 62 games, but he has never hit 50 points before playing in 82 games. In contrast, in 06-07 Roy had 21g, 42a being the 3rd line C behind those other two guys. The following year he did have 32g, 49a moving to the #1 C. I think Staal will definitely be better than Roy, but you are giving up too much. Also, if Enroth were to be traded, I would send him out West. Sabres don't do so hot against ex-Sabres, and the least we have to face him the better. - adambuffalo
Id do the trade in a second. Staal-Hodgson-Ennis would be a potent 3 center roll |
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twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Zach Bogosian as Hitman: Agent 47, NY Joined: 02.10.2011
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Garth, "trade Enroth in a move that will get you a pure #1 center". |
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FIREonICE
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Darcys Playground, NY Joined: 06.30.2007
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Garth, "trade Enroth in a move that will get you a pure #1 center". - twistedwrister9
yeah, i know...
it doesn't even makes sense if you're paying attention because even if enroth was worth it for a team to trade for (they wouldn't be keen on him because he's short and that's why we'd be trading him) then you'd be ignoring the fact that there are TONS of young goalies that will all be on the market this year and could dilute what any one of them is worth. if i was a team that neglected the goalie position but had just about everything else, i'd be ecstatic that i could get a good to better than good young goalie for not very much this off season.
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nfph
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Schadenfreude, NY Joined: 09.22.2006
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GARTH: Sabres Bolster Their Net Depth - garth
From that highlight reel, kid needs work. His movement in the crease is awkward, his positioning seemed suspect. Get the kid a real goalie coach and see what happens. He certainly has the physical tools. |
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bberkey1
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.23.2011
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Stall would be nice, but not for that. I'd imagine the Pens will shop this offseason for takers, but since he'll be a UFA I don't know about a team giving up a lot to make him the #1 guy. i think he can be that guy, on the right team, but unless he signs an immediate extension why risk it? I doubt they would shop him at the deadline, unless it was a very nice pick up, but bottom line they can not afford him after next year especially if the cap goes down (if thats the case I'd imagine you'll see them try and shop a few others as well).
I'd wait to jump on the wagon at the end of next year, but dangling a position they need and a mid draft pick this offseason isn't a bad idea either |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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I can usually handle unique, but I guess they must aren't for me. Too bad, the Highland Bowl is only like 15 minutes away from me. - Gunner Staal
To each their own.
best 5 shows I've seen
1. Les Claypool and the Fearless Flying Frog Brigade in Rochester 2000
2. Roger Waters doing the Wall at HSBC Arena 2010
3. Primus in Rochester 2011
4. Wilco at Art Park 2009
5. Les Claypool and his Fancy Band at Town Ballroom 2009 |
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detwiler006
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 02.26.2011
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Enroth, Roy, AND a first round for Staal? First of all, Pitt can't take that much of a cap hit. Second of all, that sounds like another gamble, kinda like the one that isn't working out with Leino right now. Third of all, WAY too much for Staal. Roy for Staal straight up MAYBE or Enroth and one of our seconds. |
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kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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Enroth, Roy, AND a first round for Staal? First of all, Pitt can't take that much of a cap hit. Second of all, that sounds like another gamble, kinda like the one that isn't working out with Leino right now. Third of all, WAY too much for Staal. Roy for Staal straight up MAYBE or Enroth and one of our seconds. - detwiler006
I will agree that it is an overpayment... but yours is an underpayment.
Its hard to say what would be fair value... I personally believe jordan staal is overrated.. but he is still a 50 point guy who plays physical... and is a good 2 way guy.
Maybe roy and a 1st would be fair. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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To each their own.
best 5 shows I've seen
1. Les Claypool and the Fearless Flying Frog Brigade in Rochester 2000
2. Roger Waters doing the Wall at HSBC Arena 2010
3. Primus in Rochester 2011
4. Wilco at Art Park 2009
5. Les Claypool and his Fancy Band at Town Ballroom 2009 - dadeadhead
1 Neil young pearl jam blues travelers in Toronto
2 csn at darien lake 89
3 pink Floyd Toronto
4 Genesis Syracuse
5 dead with sting at rich stadium
furthur shows and Jerry Garcia band get honorable mentions
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Slacker
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.15.2007
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Wow that video was awkkkkwaard. Cringe worthy.
Seems likes good kid, not sure that his faith has anything to do with hockey, but good luck to him. |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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1 Neil young pearl jam blues travelers in Toronto
2 csn at darien lake 89
3 pink Floyd Toronto
4 Genesis Syracuse
5 dead with sting at rich stadium
furthur shows and Jerry Garcia band get honorable mentions - homiedclown
Pearl Jam at HSBC in 2010
Bela Fleck/Keller Williams/Younder Mountain Cleveland 2004
Dave Matthews at Rich stadium in 2001
NIN 2000
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Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bustttt, NY Joined: 07.03.2010
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Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bustttt, NY Joined: 07.03.2010
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Flynox
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Location: McEichel Joined: 06.16.2011
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Mathwil3
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 01.18.2010
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Why is it a good thing that we have a fundamentalist Christian? What the hell Garth? If he's a good goalie fine but leave the BS out of it |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Why is it a good thing that we have a fundamentalist Christian? What the hell Garth? If he's a good goalie fine but leave the BS out of it - Mathwil3
Billy Smith and Grant Fuhr were far from being the nicest people yet their names are on the cup a whole bunches of times |
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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Agreed, nobody is impressed that the guy is superstitious.
Anyway...
Pittsburgh wouldn't make that trade in a million years. They have a guy that is a special talent and might put up huge numbers on a number one line (he already does very well on the 3rd line). His playoff numbers are fantastic. Sure, he is a UFA but that only slightly diminishes his value. What would we be giving up? A broken-down center that most people want to simply cut, a mid-level goalie prospect and a draft choice. There is no way that Pittsburgh even has a conversation with us if it does not include Foligno or McNabb. |
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