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OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

May 9 @ 7:17 AM ET
There was too much traffic near your anus... Kept me up nearly every night.
- laughs2907


Fair point, though tbh it was traffic for you. it is a much lonelier street now that you are not here.

and wtf just happened, we were talking anus and vag and these jerks come in here to talk hockey...the nerve.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

May 9 @ 7:27 AM ET
Im not a huge Stewert fan, but a 4th line C, a bust and a tweener defensmen don't get you Chris Stewart.
- Zombie


I'm not on the Stewart wagon either, but to be fair Belanger is more a 3rd line center than a 4th. And this is all about gaining his rights to sign him, that is all.

A poor showing RFA does not have the sky as a trading limit.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 9 @ 10:09 AM ET
I don't see how that can improve STL to be better than last year. I'm speaking with other STL fans and they urge the fact of keeping things the same but more scoring potential, I like Lander and want to keep him, but time to pay to play. EDM can get it done.
- deks1



Ffs
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 10:50 AM ET
really?!?! I would envision a smelly, yeasty dirty snatch....nothing nice about it at all
- OilHorse

With toilet paper hanging out
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 10:53 AM ET
Im not a huge Stewert fan, but a 4th line C, a bust and a tweener defensmen don't get you Chris Stewart.
- Zombie

racist
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 9 @ 12:00 PM ET
One of our best remaining forward prospects would be need to get Stewart. I'd say Pitlick, Omark and a 2013 pick might be what's needed to get it done. And I make that trade over and over again.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 12:44 PM ET
One of our best remaining forward prospects would be need to get Stewart. I'd say Pitlick, Omark and a 2013 pick might be what's needed to get it done. And I make that trade over and over again.
- Morris


Lets keep in mind Stewart was recently the key cog in a trade for a guy drafted 1st overall.

deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 9 @ 12:45 PM ET
One of our best remaining forward prospects would be need to get Stewart. I'd say Pitlick, Omark and a 2013 pick might be what's needed to get it done. And I make that trade over and over again.
- Morris


Pitlick vs Lander. I personally pick Pitlick. I like him, still got long way, but I believe in him. Lander, Omark, and 2013 2nd round pick I would do over and over.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 9 @ 12:54 PM ET
Pitlick vs Lander. I personally pick Pitlick. I like him, still got long way, but I believe in him. Lander, Omark, and 2013 2nd round pick I would do over and over.
- deks1

I would like to see Pitlick given a longer curve as well.

St.Louis likely doesn't do it.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 9 @ 12:56 PM ET
Lets keep in mind Stewart was recently the key cog in a trade for a guy drafted 1st overall.
- Zombie


I understand that for sure. Hard to say who won the trade between STL and COL. EDM offers 3 decent 2nd rounders for Stewart should be ok I'd imagine.

I would like to see Pitlick given a longer curve as well.

St.Louis likely doesn't do it.

- TheTaoOfSemenko


Like Clouts said, maybe it will take PRV to get it done. Stewart vs PRV? Apple and oranges.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 9 @ 12:58 PM ET
Lets keep in mind Stewart was recently the key cog in a trade for a guy drafted 1st overall.
- Zombie

Well, that whole trade was pretty huge. You could say in a way that every player in the trade was a key cog. It's not like it was Stewart + nobodies for a 1st overall pick.

Point taken though. Frankly, I'd give any two of our forwards not in the NHL (if Pajaarvi, then a far lesser 2nd player), I'd give up Hemsky +, I'd take back a bad contract, I'd give up a 2nd round pick, etc. I have no idea what Stewart would cost. If I had to guess he's not going to cost 1st overalls, Hall, Eberle or Nuge, or 4 roster players.

What do you figure the price would be?
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
I understand that for sure. Hard to say who won the trade between STL and COL. EDM offers 3 decent 2nd rounders for Stewart should be ok I'd imagine.



Like Clouts said, maybe it will take PRV to get it done. Stewart vs PRV? Apple and oranges.

- deks1


Basically you guys are offering up different baskets of 2nd/3rd/4th/5th rounders.

St Louis wants to trade Steward for a 2nd and couple 4th's about as bad as we want to trade Smid or Gagner for that.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
Well, that whole trade was pretty huge. You could say in a way that every player in the trade was a key cog. It's not like it was Stewart + nobodies for a 1st overall pick.

Point taken though. Frankly, I'd give any two of our forwards not in the NHL (if Pajaarvi, then a far lesser 2nd player), I'd give up Hemsky +, I'd take back a bad contract, I'd give up a 2nd round pick, etc. I have no idea what Stewart would cost. If I had to guess he's not going to cost 1st overalls, Hall, Eberle or Nuge, or 4 roster players.

What do you figure the price would be?

- Morris


Stewart has been so inconnsistent it makes it harder to say, but I'd guess he's roughly equivalent to Gagner or Smid in terms of league wide value.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
Well, that whole trade was pretty huge. You could say in a way that every player in the trade was a key cog. It's not like it was Stewart + nobodies for a 1st overall pick.

Point taken though. Frankly, I'd give any two of our forwards not in the NHL (if Pajaarvi, then a far lesser 2nd player), I'd give up Hemsky +, I'd take back a bad contract, I'd give up a 2nd round pick, etc. I have no idea what Stewart would cost. If I had to guess he's not going to cost 1st overalls, Hall, Eberle or Nuge, or 4 roster players.

What do you figure the price would be?

- Morris


I really doubt STL wants more than $5M back in salary, so Hemsky+ maybe. I don't think I would give up more than PRV for Stewart, straight across trade, if they want Omark too, sure. Who in EDM can help STL be better than this year without taking back salary since they are cap stingy team. STL has to replace Arnott as 3C, resign RFA, Stewart, Oshie, and Perron. Any UFAs they can let go as depth in organization. My fear is they ask EDM to take Steen bad contact. No no to that.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
Pitlick vs Lander. I personally pick Pitlick. I like him, still got long way, but I believe in him. Lander, Omark, and 2013 2nd round pick I would do over and over.
- deks1

I like Pitlick, but that's because he learnt a lot in the AHL this year. Lander could very well develop just as quick or quicker next year, but right now I'm liking Pitlick's development.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Stewart has been so inconnsistent it makes it harder to say, but I'd guess he's roughly equivalent to Gagner or Smid in terms of league wide value.
- Zombie

Stewart isn't getting a shutdown d-man like Smid. Maybe Gagner as they are both RFA's. The point is if we are going for him we don't pay market value as he had a horrible year.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
I really doubt STL wants more than $5M back in salary, so Hemsky+ maybe. I don't think I would give up more than PRV for Stewart, straight across trade, if they want Omark too, sure. Who in EDM can help STL be better than this year without taking back salary since they are cap stingy team. STL has to replace Arnott as 3C, resign RFA, Stewart, Oshie, and Perron. Any UFAs they can let go as depth in organization. My fear is they ask EDM to take Steen bad contact. No no to that.
- deks1

I doubt they want Hemsky. Not a guy that commits to the two-way game all the time. Seems like he is Stewart except white and a play-maker instead of a power forward.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
Stewart isn't getting a shutdown d-man like Smid. Maybe Gagner as they are both RFA's. The point is if we are going for him we don't pay market value as he had a horrible year.
- Lahey


Not giving up on Gagner yet. STL don't need Gagner since they have Backes and Berglund.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 1:43 PM ET
Not giving up on Gagner yet. STL don't need Gagner since they have Backes and Berglund.
- deks1

Gagner would fit their system if converted to wing. Although I agree. I really ain't given up much to get stewart.
thefullnelson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.03.2012

May 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
Too bad Souray was such a douche... once again he would be a good compliment to what we need in the offensive dman dept...
- saskoil21


Granted Souray was a giant D-bag... how bad of a GM do you have to be to lose that kind of talent and get nothing in return?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
Granted Souray was a giant D-bag... how bad of a GM do you have to be to lose that kind of talent and get nothing in return?
- thefullnelson

Considering no one took him on waivers what did you expect to get for him?

I don't know why people are talking about him anyway, he sucked last year.

He had 13 points in the first 14 games and then 7 in his last 50.

Yep there is a guy we (frank)ed up on.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
yeah, don't know how much Gagner is worth. Two picks in the top 50 and a project player?

I'd give up Jones in a package to get Stewart. Jones, Pitlick and a pick for Stewart and something, maybe
thefullnelson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.03.2012

May 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
Considering no one took him on waivers what did you expect to get for him?

I don't know why people are talking about him anyway, he sucked last year.

He had 13 points in the first 14 games and then 7 in his last 50.

Yep there is a guy we (frank)ed up on.

- Lahey

By the time he was on waivers, we had managed to lower his value to... very, very low. Remember how happy we were to get him? Remember how well he played when he wasn't injured or hating the guy signing his paycheque? Remember the embarassingly pathetic soap opera that was the whole "Souray vs Oilers management" squabble?
Sad to see any team get a very valuable player and then manage to lower his value to nothing. Worse to see my team do it.
I'm not saying I think Souray was in the right by any stretch... I'm just saying when we got him he was valuable, and we couldn't give the guy away by the end of it. That is partly Souray's fault, but you've gotta think a competent GM would have gotten something, anything, for him, rather than getting a distraction and an embarassment to the franchise.
thefullnelson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.03.2012

May 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
Wait... why am I naysaying everything today? I woke up smooshed between two ladies - life is grand and everything is awesome! Also, we're gonna win the Cup a couplefew times in the next decade. Yeah - go us! We're gonna leave Oiler-shaped holes in the the rest of the league very soon, and it will be awesome!
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 2:25 PM ET
yeah, don't know how much Gagner is worth. Two picks in the top 50 and a project player?

I'd give up Jones in a package to get Stewart. Jones, Pitlick and a pick for Stewart and something, maybe

- Morris


WTF?

Gagner is easily worth a mid range first round pick... Stewart the same.
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