Offensively, he still runs hot and cold. Looking at his age, this is as good as he's going to get. Maybe he has one more big year but this is pretty much what he is.

Should have traded him for that 1st round pick. What a waste.
- Unholy_Goalie

Good idea....let's trade grabo for a late 1st rounder and MAYBE we'll get a player that produces and plays as hard as him in 5yrs from now....

EDIT: and the majority of Kulemin's goals from 2 seasons ago weren't off the rush...they were dirty goals from front of the net....or off the boards....which correlates well to his skillset.
- Pen15

Edit: You fail. Again.

Good idea....let's trade grabo for a late 1st rounder and MAYBE we'll get a player that produces and plays as hard as him in 5yrs from now....


- Pen15

Ask him if we should trade Schenn for a 1st rounder.

Go on, I dare you.

Edit: You fail. Again.
- Unholy_Goalie

Through 2 minutes....only 1 goal is off the rush...

Keep trying guppy.

Ask him if we should trade Schenn for a 1st rounder.

Go on, I dare you.
- Atomic Wedgie

23 year old who they drafted 5th overall or a 28 year old who has reached his peak value?

Not even close to the same situation.

Good idea....let's trade grabo for a late 1st rounder and MAYBE we'll get a player that produces and plays as hard as him in 5yrs from now....


- Pen15

oh, frank
not the crappy late 1st round draft picks again

Ask him if we should trade Schenn for a 1st rounder.

Go on, I dare you.
- Atomic Wedgie

No...Schenn is a lock to be a top 4dman, even though nothing in his play last year showed it...(and he's shown nothing but up and down inconsistent seasons since he got here)

Kulemin has one bad season (whereas all previous seasons he had progressively improved), and now he's a bust.

This clown wouldn't know how to assess talent if it hit him upside the head.

Juri Tlusty, John Mithcell, Carlo Coliacovo, Robbie Earl, Justin Pogge....These would be your Leafs if UG was running the show.

Through 2 minutes....only 1 goal is off the rush...

Keep trying guppy.
- Pen15

Don't watch the whole video or anything. It might prove you dead wrong.

Don't watch the whole video or anything. It might prove you dead wrong.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'll let you sit through 8 minutes and report back to me how many were off the rush...

So far...from 10 goals....only 1 is off the rush. That's 10% guppy...still a good 41% away from saying that's the majority.

oh, frank
not the crappy late 1st round draft picks again
- bobbyisno1

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
- Pen15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksGE4cqRzPM&ob=av2e

So far...from 10 goals....only 1 is off the rush. That's 10% guppy...still a good 41% away from saying that's the majority.
- Pen15

This is getting very sad, very quickly. On the first 10 goals, he scored exactly five off the rush or off of individual efforts based on his speed and shot, two on the powerplay and three from cycling the puck.

You're not worth it.

This is getting very sad, very quickly. On the first 10 goals, he scored exactly five off the rush or off of individual efforts based on his speed and shot, two on the powerplay and three from cycling the puck.

You're not worth it.
- Unholy_Goalie

Do you have a clue as to what even constitutes a rush?

When you're already in the other teams zone and score...that doesn't count as a 'goal off the rush'...

Goal #7 & 10 were legitimate off the rush goals...The rest were either turnovers, or faceoffs in the other teams zone...

I'm starting to really feel sorry for you...

I give Mac a passing grade up front. he has a decent contract for his production

I give Mac a passing grade up front. he has a decent contract for his production
- perrinsl

Hopefully Kulemin has a bounce back year next year and can bump up MacArthur's numbers like he did last year. Then, the Leafs can trade MacArthur at the deadline, maybe squeeze a 1st round pick out of somebody if the market is like it was this year, and replace him with Kadri in the top-six.

But he has one attribute that fans lock onto and love. For Lombardi, that's speed.

Kinda like Bozak and face-offs.
- Atomic Wedgie

Except that face-offs are important while skating fast down the wing and hitting the goalie in the chest, isn't.

Hopefully Kulemin has a bounce back year next year and can bump up MacArthur's numbers like he did last year. Then, the Leafs can trade MacArthur at the deadline, maybe squeeze a 1st round pick out of somebody if the market is like it was this year, and replace him with Kadri in the top-six.
- Unholy_Goalie

from watching the marlies this playoffs, kadri, frattin, or d'amigo will be battling mac for his spot. All three have been impressive. I think Mac becomes expendable before the deadline.

from watching the marlies this playoffs, kadri, frattin, or d'amigo will be battling mac for his spot. All three have been impressive. I think Mac becomes expendable before the deadline.
- perrinsl

Except that those three guys are in their early 20s and MacArthur is 27. Unless they absolutely blow him away, chances are seniority and experience kick in.

But by the end of the season, he definitely should be replaced by one of those three players, preferably Kadri because Kadri absolutely needs top-six minutes. Kadri sitting on the 3rd line just doesn't help anybody.

Do you have a clue as to what even constitutes a rush?

When you're already in the other teams zone and score...that doesn't count as a 'goal off the rush'...

Goal #7 & 10 were legitimate off the rush goals...The rest were either turnovers, or faceoffs in the other teams zone...

I'm starting to really feel sorry for you...
- Pen15

I counted 16 and 14, so he's right - but just barely.

Except that those three guys are in their early 20s and MacArthur is 27. Unless they absolutely blow him away, chances are seniority and experience kick in.

But by the end of the season, he definitely should be replaced by one of those three players, preferably Kadri because Kadri absolutely needs top-six minutes. Kadri sitting on the 3rd line just doesn't help anybody.
- Unholy_Goalie

I could see a scenario where Kulemin and mac could find themselves on the third line coming out of training camp with bozak.

I believe that there are three spots in the top six that are open. Frattin would look nice beside grabovski, one spot will be filled by trade, leaving kadri to battle it out.

I counted 16 and 14, so he's right - but just barely.
- A_Tree

You also have to consider he scored 5 goals on the PP last year and only 1 PP goal this year. If he truly was a master of cycling the puck and scoring the dirty goals, he would have had no problem on the PP because that's pretty much what they do.

Fact is, Kulemin is a very fast player with a very good shot. Playing run and gun hockey should have benefited him. He could have blasted down the wing or cut up the middle and fired a shot on net and scored plenty of goals. But he didn't.

And the Leafs did fore-check and cycle the puck this year. It wasn't all North / South hockey. Kulemin just didn't hit the corners or have the same finishing touch. The style of game still suited his strengths, he just didn't deliver.

I could see a scenario where Kulemin and mac could find themselves on the third line coming out of training camp with bozak.

I believe that there are three spots in the top six that are open. Frattin would look nice beside grabovski, one spot will be filled by trade, leaving kadri to battle it out.
- perrinsl

That's not going to happen. Kulemin is going to get a contract and MacArthur is paid like a 2nd liner. These guys aren't going to end up on the 3rd line for long periods of time. Especially if they want to make the playoffs.

And for Bozak to be on the 3rd line, Connolly is going to have to play up to his contract. And stay healthy. I wouldn't count on that. Unless they bring in a high quality center, Bozak is most likely going to stick with Kessel. Not saying that's a good thing but that's what has happened thus far.

That's not going to happen. Kulemin is going to get a contract and MacArthur is paid like a 2nd liner. These guys aren't going to end up on the 3rd line for long periods of time. Especially if they want to make the playoffs.

And for Bozak to be on the 3rd line, Connolly is going to have to play up to his contract. And stay healthy. I wouldn't count on that. Unless they bring in high quality center, Bozak is most likely going to stick with Kessel. Not saying that's a good thing but that's what has happened thus far.
- Unholy_Goalie

True...tough to rid of connolly s contract.

Would burke draft another defensemen if murray falls to five? could have of choice of forsberg or murray at pick five.

You also have to consider he scored 5 goals on the PP last year and only 1 PP goal this year. If he truly was a master of cycling the puck and scoring the dirty goals, he would have had no problem on the PP because that's pretty much what they do.

Fact is, Kulemin is a very fast player with a very good shot. Playing run and gun hockey should have benefited him. He could have blasted down the wing or cut up the middle and fired a shot on net and scored plenty of goals. But he didn't.

And the Leafs did fore-check and cycle the puck this year. It wasn't all North / South hockey. Kulemin just didn't hit the corners or have the same finishing touch. The style of game still suited his strengths, he just didn't deliver.
- Unholy_Goalie

He had a poop year for sure. Doubt we'll see a repeat though.

True...tough to rid of connolly s contract.

Would burke draft another defensemen if murray falls to five? could have of choice of forsberg or murray at pick five.
- perrinsl

Luckily his contract only lasts until the end of next season.

If the Leafs get a little bit of luck, they could dump Connolly at the deadline. Same goes for Armstrong. Lots of teams love to add depth at the deadline and as long as we get a couple draft picks, everybody wins.

Definitely Murray. Absolutely no doubt about it. If the Leafs are lucky enough to be at 5th and have Murray still on the board, they would be idiots to pass on him.