Who knows... if they are all good enough to warrant 8 mill a year, thats a good problem to have.

Deal with it when it arises.
- robin_steele264

Only if it gets you somewhere. Or else it's just a problem.

I think many people (myself included) associate "injury prone" as being continuously injured as a direct result of your style of play. This is not the case with Hall.
- laughs2907

im talking about injured in every sense of the word. when you take a skate to the face, you pissed someone off somewhere. Hes like a black cat. Unlucky.

It depends on whether you consider the prone in 'injury prone' to denote and inclination in the empirical or the metaphysical sense. Certainly falling on a skate in warmup does not suggest a likelihood to suffer that or similar injuries in the future. But I think some of the unluckiness surrounding Hall's injuries shows that it might be as likely that he never has a 60-game season again as it is that he'll only ever have 60 game seasons. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle - I'd predict a couple full seasons, and a couple short ones.
- Morris

I concur.

But what im asking is, whats the difference? Its safe to say an accident is not a good thing right? and when your playing hockey, and if accident happens, your going to get hurt. accident prone, injury prone.
- Deadmau55

I don't think it is as simple as saying that you have have an accident so you are injury prone.

You admit that Hall got the skate in the face and came back in the next game, maybe the game after. Someone that was injury prone would miss more time on that. Hall had an injury, as pointed out, and had been playing through it to a high degree of talent.

I can agree he is a Calamity Joe...but he misses as little time as possible and does not get the same injury over again, which to me is the true indicator of injury prone, have a previous injury as a recurring instance. See Hemmer's shoulders as an example of injury recurring equating injury prone.

do you think with all the potential super stars the oil have... they will be able to keep them all? maybe im over valuing them a little bit, but ive never seen so much talent in one place. And if they turn out to be great players, you can expect them to be payed like it.
- Deadmau55

If it comes down to it we trade one of them and get great assets in return. They will still be our property.

Only if it gets you somewhere. Or else it's just a problem.
- Phenom

Having super elite talent on your team?

I'll take that over what we had before the rebuild, thanks.

Having super elite talent on your team?

I'll take that over what we had before the rebuild, thanks.
- robin_steele264

super elite talent on your team, that wants a big payday, and you have to let some go in order for one or two to stay, therein lies the problem.

super elite talent on your team, that wants a big payday, and you have to let some go in order for one or two to stay, therein lies the problem.
- Deadmau55

Trade for assets.

problem solved.

super elite talent on your team, that wants a big payday, and you have to let some go in order for one or two to stay, therein lies the problem.
- Deadmau55

Kings seem to find a way to ice a team with multiple stars.


along with every other contending team basically...

super elite talent on your team, that wants a big payday, and you have to let some go in order for one or two to stay, therein lies the problem.
- Deadmau55

No there yet, no problem

super elite talent on your team, that wants a big payday, and you have to let some go in order for one or two to stay, therein lies the problem.
- Deadmau55

How is that a problem? Do we get nothing for them in return?

Having super elite talent on your team?

I'll take that over what we had before the rebuild, thanks.
- robin_steele264

Of course, but if it doesn't get you ultimate success, you'd end up having to take steps back. If you have 3 or 4 70-100 point players, but still can't get past the 2nd round of the playoffs, that's a problem. But at least you'd have assets to turn into whatever is missing on your team.

Of course, but if it doesn't get you ultimate success, you'd end up having to take steps back. If you have 3 or 4 70-100 point players, but still can't get past the 2nd round of the playoffs, that's a problem. But at least you'd have assets to turn into whatever is missing on your team.
- Phenom

That sounds better than finishing last and totally sucking bumhole.

How is that a problem? Do we get nothing for them in return?
- Ihatebrianburke

"do you think with all the potential super stars the oil have... they will be able to keep them all? maybe im over valuing them a little bit, but ive never seen so much talent in one place. And if they turn out to be great players, you can expect them to be payed like it."

Thats what I originally said. If you want to keep Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yaks, and dont want to trade them away, then you have a problem. If you don't mind trading them away, then there is no issue.

"do you think with all the potential super stars the oil have... they will be able to keep them all? maybe im over valuing them a little bit, but ive never seen so much talent in one place. And if they turn out to be great players, you can expect them to be payed like it."

Thats what I originally said. If you want to keep Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yaks, and dont want to trade them away, then you have a problem. If you don't mind trading them away, then there is no issue.
- Deadmau55

lots of variables there and a lot can change between now and the time this problem exists... if it ever does.

Of course, but if it doesn't get you ultimate success, you'd end up having to take steps back. If you have 3 or 4 70-100 point players, but still can't get past the 2nd round of the playoffs, that's a problem. But at least you'd have assets to turn into whatever is missing on your team.
- Phenom

that is a lot if IFs to base your whole arguments around...

Of course, but if it doesn't get you ultimate success, you'd end up having to take steps back. If you have 3 or 4 70-100 point players, but still can't get past the 2nd round of the playoffs, that's a problem. But at least you'd have assets to turn into whatever is missing on your team.
- Phenom

At least someone gets it. Thank you for having a brain.

Richard Cloutier: Draft Thoughts and Randoms
- Maxbone

You're right about getting bigger in the top six - or at the very least a grittier game, of course keeping in mind Hall will continue escalating that portion of his game.

I'm cool with rolling Harti + through that 2L left wing.
If there is very little UFA or trade action for the Oil in this department, I'm good with rolling Eager up there as well.

It will have to do.

So yes. Hemsky drops to the third line at the expense of a tougher top six perhaps reuniting with Smyth/ Horcs.

Kings seem to find a way to ice a team with multiple stars.


along with every other contending team basically...
- robin_steele264

The salary cap next year is $70,300,000?

But yeah, as you were saying...

Kopitar 6.8
Richards 5.75
Carter 5.27
Doughty 7

Total: 24.82

If the Oilers sign Hall, Ebs, Nuge, and Yak for 6 million each, that's only 24 million...

PLUS, if we signed each of Hall, Nuge and Yak, that'll only be a 2.2ish million dollar increase for those guys. Ebs would be in for a huge increase though, but whatever. Still only 24 million.

lots of variables there and a lot can change between now and the time this problem exists... if it ever does.
- robin_steele264

Im sure. I wouldn't want to trade kopi for anything right now. Is that stupid beyond reason? Yes. But being a fan will blind you at times. I think its fair to say, oiler fans will, and do feel the same about your core. Some players in that core will be traded, and oiler fans wont be happy about it, no matter who comes back.

that is a lot if IFs to base your whole arguments around...
- OilHorse

Life itself is based on a series of IFs my friend. Why should the NHL be any different?Be ready for anything. Be prepared. That's what the Boy Scouts said, I think.




OMG, I'm so bored.

Life itself is based on a series of IFs my friend. Why should the NHL be any different?Be ready for anything. Be prepared. That's what the Boy Scouts said, I think.




OMG, I'm so bored.
- Phenom

thought the leafs were in on Vokoun..

At least someone gets it. Thank you for having a brain.
- Ihatebrianburke

It's not rocket surgery.....

Im sure. I wouldn't want to trade kopi for anything right now. Is that stupid beyond reason? Yes. But being a fan will blind you at times. I think its fair to say, oiler fans will, and do feel the same about your core. Some players in that core will be traded, and oiler fans wont be happy about it, no matter who comes back.
- Deadmau55

Or maybe they are all signed long term.


We got them all for a good while yet anyways, so Im not really too concerened about that far down the road.

lots of variables there and a lot can change between now and the time this problem exists... if it ever does.
- robin_steele264

+1...

LAK: 7mil Dman, 6.8mil, 5.7mil, 5.2mil Centers all signed long term. By the end of next season they will have 16 player reach RFA/UFA status. Including their potential Conn Smythe goalie. If you think Edm has troubles brewing then you better watch it all first hand in LA.