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yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:10 AM ET
Shultz has nothing to do with the deal
- Ihatebrianburke


Nice name
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:10 AM ET
Just out of curiosity how do you guys plan on affording Hall, Nuge, Eberle, and Yakupov and filling your team with worthwhile defence and goaltending enough to win a cup?...good luck fitting all that under cap because i can't see a cup til you have defence and goaltending and by the time you get a sufficient amount of it, your young core are asking for big contracts. If I were the Oilers the Generational Talent Pick should be traded for something useful to you organization...But Tambi is an idiot, so I imagine you guys will have some heartache when one of these prize picks walks cause you can't afford him and get the other pieces necessary for a cup
- Suckitcrosby

we talked one day last fall about how the trolling would eventually progress to this. thank you for living up to expectations. There's a piece of cheese at the end of the maze. Just avoid the shock prods.

*picks up clipboard*
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:11 AM ET
Potentially if all this talk about Gardiner and him been best friends has any truth.
- yea-ok-buddy

Definitely a good reason to trade a 1st overall.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:13 AM ET
Definitely a good reason to trade a 1st overall.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


So you think that Gardiner and the 5th isnt fair value for the 1st?
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:14 AM ET
Leaf and Canuck fans. (frank) OFF! Go discuss your Luongo trades elsewhere.
dallas717
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:15 AM ET
So you think that Gardiner and the 5th isnt fair value for the 1st?
- yea-ok-buddy


If you want the answer to this question, look at what I said earlier. Consider the player that will be taken, not the pick number.

A "generational talent" first overall pick who is going to step into the NHL right away for a top 4 defensemen and a defensive prospect that would taken at 5th overall (probably Reinhart/Rielly)? Not going to happen, ever. This is why trades involving 1st overall picks pretty much never happen.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:15 AM ET
So you think that Gardiner and the 5th isnt fair value for the 1st?
- yea-ok-buddy

Possibly, but personally, as good as Gardiner looked, if I were Tambi I'd be worried about how proven he truly is. The Oilers need definitive blueline help, and if Gardiner flopped in Edmonton we would never live it down. Its fair value, but still a lot of risk to assume.

This sort of thing is why a 1st overall is essentially never moved.
Suckitcrosby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.13.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:17 AM ET
no, not really

if Chicago and Philly can do it !

Hemsky will have to go however, spend that money on D

- Rimland


Oh they did? Really, cause last time I checked Chicago had defence prior and lucked in on goaltending and got their cup when their young forwards were on entry level deals. Which is great, but they had to sell their team. Edmonton is different, Edmonton won't have the other assets before the entry level deals go out. Philly doesn't have the young superstars they need to lock up and they have solidified all positions. Dynasty teams like Philly, Pittsburgh and Boston have it right, Edmonton is almost there but they need to solidify their back. They are fine up front. Drafting Yakupov is a mistake, trading that pick for help where its needed is a better decision
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:18 AM ET
The same way LA fits everyone.
- yea-ok-buddy

Thank you, so it's not that hard to figure out.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:18 AM ET
Nice name
- yea-ok-buddy

Its true. The fat american pig
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:19 AM ET
If you want the answer to this question, look at what I said earlier. Consider the player that will be taken, not the pick number.

A "generational talent" first overall pick who is going to step into the NHL right away for a top 4 defensemen and a defensive prospect that would taken at 5th overall (probably Reinhart/Rielly)? Not going to happen, ever. This is why trades involving 1st overall picks pretty much never happen.

- dallas717


True enough, I just think that Tambi knows how much Offensive potential he has already. If the right deal came along to gain some defense potential such as the one I've been talking about, he would consider it.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:19 AM ET
Oh they did? Really, cause last time I checked Chicago had defence prior and lucked in on goaltending and got their cup when their young forwards were on entry level deals. Which is great, but they had to sell their team. Edmonton is different, Edmonton won't have the other assets before the entry level deals go out. Philly doesn't have the young superstars they need to lock up and they have solidified all positions. Dynasty teams like Philly, Pittsburgh and Boston have it right, Edmonton is almost there but they need to solidify their back. They are fine up front. Drafting Yakupov is a mistake, trading that pick for help where its needed is a better decision
- Suckitcrosby

Trading that pick won't get them half as much as the player would fetch in a year or two.

Does anybody spouting this foolishness truly believe a (frank)ing draft pick is worth more than an established NHL forward with all star capability? Use your (frank)ing head or just leave.

(frank) me..
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:24 AM ET
True enough, I just think that Tambi knows how much Offensive potential he has already. If the right deal came along to gain some defense potential such as the one I've been talking about, he would consider it.
- yea-ok-buddy

They don't need defensive potential. They have that already. They need genuine top pairing NHL dmen.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:24 AM ET
Oh they did? Really, cause last time I checked Chicago had defence prior and lucked in on goaltending and got their cup when their young forwards were on entry level deals. Which is great, but they had to sell their team. Edmonton is different, Edmonton won't have the other assets before the entry level deals go out. Philly doesn't have the young superstars they need to lock up and they have solidified all positions. Dynasty teams like Philly, Pittsburgh and Boston have it right, Edmonton is almost there but they need to solidify their back. They are fine up front. Drafting Yakupov is a mistake, trading that pick for help where its needed is a better decision
- Suckitcrosby

None of these teams has won more than one cup lately and Philly zero. None are dynasties
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:25 AM ET
Oh they did? Really, cause last time I checked Chicago had defence prior and lucked in on goaltending and got their cup when their young forwards were on entry level deals. Which is great, but they had to sell their team. Edmonton is different, Edmonton won't have the other assets before the entry level deals go out. Philly doesn't have the young superstars they need to lock up and they have solidified all positions. Dynasty teams like Philly, Pittsburgh and Boston have it right, Edmonton is almost there but they need to solidify their back. They are fine up front. Drafting Yakupov is a mistake, trading that pick for help where its needed is a better decision
- Suckitcrosby



Thank you for the advice.

I am very excited to draft Yakupov and add another great young talent to the Oilers.

abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:28 AM ET
I almost forgot my decision to reply to idiocy with pictures of hot chicks.
Edit-or ugly chicks if the post deserves it, so be careful
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:31 AM ET
None of these teams has won more than one cup lately and Philly zero. None are dynasties
- Ihatebrianburke

I didn't even address that part. I felt stupid enough giving it the time I did.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:33 AM ET
Thank you for the advice.

I am very excited to draft Yakupov and add another great young talent to the Oilers.

- robin_steele264


With first overall pick the Toronto Maple Leafs select from the Sarnia Sting Nail Yakupov. Haha jk Tambi doesn't have to balls to trade with Burke.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:35 AM ET
With first overall pick the Toronto Maple Leafs select from the Sarnia Sting Nail Yakupov. Haha jk Tambi doesn't have to balls to trade with Burke.
- yea-ok-buddy



It's a no brainer to take a player like Nail.


TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:36 AM ET
With first overall pick the Toronto Maple Leafs select from the Sarnia Sting Nail Yakupov. Haha jk Tambi doesn't have to balls to trade with Burke.
- yea-ok-buddy

yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:37 AM ET
It's a no brainer to take a player like Nail.
- robin_steele264


Never know man, its been awhile since a 1st has been traded, maybe this will be the year.
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:37 AM ET
It's a no brainer to take a player like Nail.
- robin_steele264

I agree, but it seems there are a lack of brains around here.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:38 AM ET
I agree, but it seems there are a lack of brains around here.
- abware


I wouldnt take anyone over Yakupov
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:39 AM ET
Never know man, its been awhile since a 1st has been traded, maybe this will be the year.
- yea-ok-buddy



Tambi will just pick him and get his #1 line.

Hall - RNH - Nail


abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:40 AM ET
Never know man, its been awhile since a 1st has been traded, maybe this will be the year.
- yea-ok-buddy

Unless a sure fire top end NHL defense man is coming back Yakupov will be an Oiler.
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