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Forums :: Blog World :: Richard Cloutier: Trade Wars II: Reloaded - First Seven Trade Offers
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:45 PM ET
Nash is a rare type of player, so teams will have to pay to get him.
- Leafs43

That's true, but so was Heatley and it didn't exactly cost that much.
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:46 PM ET
That's true, but so was Heatley and it didn't exactly cost that much.
- Lahey


You mean when he was in Atlanta? After that he sure wasn't anything special. He can't skate, he doesn't know what the word defense even means and he is a complete and total douche canoe.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:47 PM ET
Because of injury. He was a top rated prospect. Did well in Anaheim got traded to a poop hole city and went down hill.
- lightz39

Great point. He did go downhill once he was traded to philly
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:47 PM ET
Great point. He did go downhill once he was traded to philly
- ruttager17

Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:48 PM ET
Burke's mind is quite unique.

Although Slats offered lots too. The question becomes now that the dust has settled what do these GM's think?

Kinda odd that Howson said no. Sure Reimer is better, but is that the deal breaker?

- Lahey


If im Columbus im looking for one great prospect. The rumored deal didnt offer that. Although Howson probably could have flipped Lupul for a first+.

As far as Reimer being the deal breaker, thats what I heard.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:50 PM ET
That's true, but so was Heatley and it didn't exactly cost that much.
- Lahey


I think Nash is being a little more cooperative. He never actually said publically he wanted a trade ( Unless iam mistaken). Howson made the dumbass mistake of telling the world himself.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 7 @ 5:51 PM ET
What about Luke Schenn and the fifth overall pick in exchange for Edmonton's first overall pick?
- _Zippy_




Nein.


ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
If im Columbus im looking for one great prospect. The rumored deal didnt offer that. Although Howson probably could have flipped Lupul for a first+.

As far as Reimer being the deal breaker, thats what I heard.

- Leafs43

Lupul for a first plus??? WTF??? Oh i get it. You were making a joke. Well played sir.
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
Lupul for a first plus??? WTF??? Oh i get it. You were making a joke. Well played sir.
- ruttager17


He probably meant a bottom 15 first. I could easily see that being the case if a 1st was offered for MacArthur.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:54 PM ET
Lupul for a first plus??? WTF??? Oh i get it. You were making a joke. Well played sir.
- ruttager17


You dont think Lupul could have got a first + at the deadline? I do. He was having a great season.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:54 PM ET
I like connelly. But I'd rather not pull an edmonton and rely on lottery picks for 5 years to build a team.

Trading Kipper/Iggy for that return is not enough. They'd be without a Starting Goalie, and without a 1st line RW. And Still without a 1st line C (which with that trade would end up being Mackinon). Add in a proven top 2 player and that deal would happen. But I don't think there's any one in TB that would fit in that trade.


Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:55 PM ET
The other sucky players is the deal breaker?
- lightz39

Well he only wanting reimer instead of gustafsson, is reimer really that good to take all those so called sucky player?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:56 PM ET
I think Nash is being a little more cooperative. He never actually said publically he wanted a trade ( Unless iam mistaken). Howson made the dumbass mistake of telling the world himself.
- Leafs43

Thought his agent made it clear?
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:57 PM ET
Well he only wanting reimer instead of gustafsson, is reimer really that good to take all those so called sucky player?
- Lahey


Reimer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gustavsson. So swapping goalies would have made a big difference. Columbus needed a goalie to play games. Gus couldn't have. I would have done that deal with Reimer. Scrivens is better.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:57 PM ET
What about Luke Schenn and the fifth overall pick in exchange for Edmonton's first overall pick?
- _Zippy_


Nope.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:57 PM ET
Thought his agent made it clear?
- Lahey


This is a possibility. No idea, just remember Howson's press conference on TDD
Code67
Ottawa Senators
Location: Grande Prairie, AB
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:58 PM ET
So you want the Sens to trade 2 of their top prospects for a guy who will be a UFA in 1 season...never going to hapen, why put in a condition on the leafs trade but none on the sens when its the same situation
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 5:59 PM ET
Interesting.

Rejected only trade right off of the bat, and it probably isn't the one you're thinking.

CLIFFHANGER.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:59 PM ET
If im Columbus im looking for one great prospect. The rumored deal didnt offer that. Although Howson probably could have flipped Lupul for a first+.

As far as Reimer being the deal breaker, thats what I heard.

- Leafs43

If I'm Howson, i'm telling all interested teams to send there offers in and go from there. Maybe there is a team that would trade him an equal established player or maybe 2 guys that are good players, but have potential to be very good?
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:59 PM ET
You dont think Lupul could have got a first + at the deadline? I do. He was having a great season.
- Leafs43

One great season in a career that has been sub par to date. GM's not named Snow or Burke generally don't make those kinds of trades based on one good year 10 years into his pro career. Also they probably recognize his good year is based on his chemistry with kessel and wouldnt necessarily transfer over to another team. Toronto would be stupid to trade him anyways being that him and phil "the vessel" kessel played so well together.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 7 @ 6:01 PM ET
Gagner + 2013 1st for Schultz and 6th overall.
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 7 @ 6:01 PM ET
One great season in a career that has been sub par to date. GM's not named Snow or Burke generally don't make those kinds of trades based on one good year 10 years into his pro career. Also they probably recognize his good year is based on his chemistry with kessel and wouldnt necessarily transfer over to another team. Toronto would be stupid to trade him anyways being that him and phil "the vessel" kessel played so well together.
- ruttager17


He easily would have gotten 1st + last years deadline. Weak draft. People were offering 1st round picks for Grabovski and MacArthur. Lupul straight up was our best player last year. By a long shot.
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 7 @ 6:02 PM ET
Gagner + 2013 1st for Schultz and 6th overall.
- Lahey


So Gagner and a top 5 for 6th this year? Schultz is coming to T.O.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
He easily would have gotten 1st + last years deadline. Weak draft. People were offering 1st round picks for Grabovski and MacArthur. Lupul straight up was our best player last year. By a long shot.
- lightz39

I wasnt aware that lupul played for the thrashers last year. Weird.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
One great season in a career that has been sub par to date. GM's not named Snow or Burke generally don't make those kinds of trades based on one good year 10 years into his pro career. Also they probably recognize his good year is based on his chemistry with kessel and wouldnt necessarily transfer over to another team. Toronto would be stupid to trade him anyways being that him and phil "the vessel" kessel played so well together.
- ruttager17


When a team is thinking short term at the trade deadline, one good season is all it takes. We got a second for Dominique Moore, who was basically non existant before that year.
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