Zherdev was I can't miss!!
- jakenewton

Combined with our earlier conversation, this post makes me happy.

They could just trade for nash for a young scoring stud.
- LEAFSfan28191

Or a really good d-man.

Combined with our earlier conversation, this post makes me happy.
- Schenn-Sational!

I think who ever gets Grigorenko will get the steal of the draft, he most likely will go out of the top 10 now.

How does Columbus not need D????
- LEAFSfan28191

What don't they need?! lol:

Murray could go first overall for all we know i just have a bad feelin about yaks i just do i hope im wrong.
- LEAFSfan28191

LMAO if edmonton actually drafted murray, they would be the stupidest franchise in history, defenders come and go, you dont just say no to guy averaging over 100 pts in like 60+ games or whatever his statistics were. Murray is NOT the answer for edmonton, he doesnt have a wow factor as alot of the tsn guys were saying, he is a calm more rounded defender not known for accumulating alot of points or being the most offensive but a more defensive individual. Edmonton has assets like hemsky, MPS, Gagne, Hartakainen, Anton Lander, and more guys they could easily trade to obtain defenders in the league or 1st rounders so they can draft other defencemen since this draft is practically all defenders

I think who ever gets Grigorenko will get the steal of the draft, he most likely will go out of the top 10 now.
- yea-ok-buddy

Agreed. I think too many scouts and especially tsn are blowing this out of proportion. His statistics dont lie at the end of the day. He got 85 pts in 59 games played, 40 goals and in the playoffs where supposingly he didnt try bob mackenzie said? the guy got 10 pts in 11 games.... HOW IN THE HELL IS THAT TERRIBLE, GIVE ME A BREAK

LMAO if edmonton actually drafted murray, they would be the stupidest franchise in history, defenders come and go, you dont just say no to guy averaging over 100 pts in like 60+ games or whatever his statistics were. Murray is NOT the answer for edmonton, he doesnt have a wow factor as alot of the tsn guys were saying, he is a calm more rounded defender not known for accumulating alot of points or being the most offensive but a more defensive individual. Edmonton has assets like hemsky, MPS, Gagne, Hartakainen, Anton Lander, and more guys they could easily trade to obtain defenders in the league or 1st rounders so they can draft other defencemen since this draft is practically all defenders
- Mapleleafs_91

Difference between Murray and Yakupov isn't that much. Do you know who the experts are comparing Murrays style of play to?

Because they have a set defence at the moment tied up with contracts, murray is NHL ready. Unless they trade away some defense....?
- Mapleleafs_91

Ryan Murray easily becomes their #1 dman their top four with murray would be JJ, Wiz, and Nakitin

LMAO if edmonton actually drafted murray, they would be the stupidest franchise in history, defenders come and go, you dont just say no to guy averaging over 100 pts in like 60+ games or whatever his statistics were. Murray is NOT the answer for edmonton, he doesnt have a wow factor as alot of the tsn guys were saying, he is a calm more rounded defender not known for accumulating alot of points or being the most offensive but a more defensive individual. Edmonton has assets like hemsky, MPS, Gagne, Hartakainen, Anton Lander, and more guys they could easily trade to obtain defenders in the league or 1st rounders so they can draft other defencemen since this draft is practically all defenders
- Mapleleafs_91

Defensemen are very important components to a team... and Edmonton already has a good number of young forwards.

Difference between Murray and Yakupov isn't that much. Do you know who the experts are comparing Murrays style of play to?
- yea-ok-buddy

Scouts are morons. Oh hes the next niedermayer, MY ASS hes the next niedermayer . I sh!t better defense then ryan murray. He doesnt have the WOW factor to be that dominant defensemen, hes not an offensive guy which is evident and talked about alot. Dont BS me with what scouts comparing to when the guy is only 17 years of age, scouts are morons and i hate comparisons to players because it proves nothing. This draft is weak, its a big ? on most players and as many have said, yakopov is in his own class divided apart from the rest of the players. Murray is a well rounded defensemen who is ready to start in the NHL, but when scouts compare him to the best defenders in the league when the kid is only 17, you are seriously (frank)ed in the head. Talk to me when he reaches niedermayers or lidstroms potential.

What don't they need?! lol:
- jakenewton

They don't need another top 5 bust draft pick.

Defensemen are very important components to a team... and Edmonton already has a good number of young forwards.
- Schenn-Sational!

Hows eric johnson working out? Oh thats right Give me a break, edmonton has a billion other assets that they can trade for defenders, Murray is not going to save them.

Scouts are morons. Oh hes the next niedermayer, MY ASS hes the next niedermayer . I sh!t better defense then ryan murray. He doesnt have the WOW factor to be that dominant defensemen, hes not an offensive guy which is evident and talked about alot. Dont BS me with what scouts comparing to when the guy is only 17 years of age, scouts are morons and i hate comparisons to players because it proves nothing. This draft is weak, its a big ? on most players and as many have said, yakopov is in his own class divided apart from the rest of the players. Murray is a well rounded defensemen who is ready to start in the NHL, but when scouts compare him to the best defenders in the league when the kid is only 17, you are seriously (frank)ed in the head. Talk to me when he reaches niedermayers or lidstroms potential.
- Mapleleafs_91

Difference between style of play and how good he is atm.

Scouts are morons. Oh hes the next niedermayer, MY ASS hes the next niedermayer . I sh!t better defense then ryan murray. He doesnt have the WOW factor to be that dominant defensemen, hes not an offensive guy which is evident and talked about alot. Dont BS me with what scouts comparing to when the guy is only 17 years of age, scouts are morons and i hate comparisons to players because it proves nothing. This draft is weak, its a big ? on most players and as many have said, yakopov is in his own class divided apart from the rest of the players. Murray is a well rounded defensemen who is ready to start in the NHL, but when scouts compare him to the best defenders in the league when the kid is only 17, you are seriously (frank)ed in the head. Talk to me when he reaches niedermayers or lidstroms potential.
- Mapleleafs_91

Gimme a break he played better than phaenuf at the world championships this summer. Tsn said gardiner was the next niedermayer possibly now thats a joke stop crying cause he won't fall to the leafs

Difference between style of play and how good he is atm.
- yea-ok-buddy

You still dont understand how easy it is to acquire defensemen. Edmonton has next years draft to acquire a defensemen since i guarantee they wont win the lottery. Second, they have hemsky, MPS, Hartkainen, Gagne, and Anton Lander as assets that can land them defenders, come on Edmonton is not stupid, they DO NOT have to trade their 1st rounder 2012 or draft ryan murray. There is plenty of defenders in the league and not so much good prospects of guy who acheived over 100 pts in 60 games and his the top draft choice out of all the players. That sir, is the difference why Edmonton's GM would be shot if he drafted murray as #1

Scouts are morons. Oh hes the next niedermayer, MY ASS hes the next niedermayer . I sh!t better defense then ryan murray. He doesnt have the WOW factor to be that dominant defensemen, hes not an offensive guy which is evident and talked about alot. Dont BS me with what scouts comparing to when the guy is only 17 years of age, scouts are morons and i hate comparisons to players because it proves nothing. This draft is weak, its a big ? on most players and as many have said, yakopov is in his own class divided apart from the rest of the players. Murray is a well rounded defensemen who is ready to start in the NHL, but when scouts compare him to the best defenders in the league when the kid is only 17, you are seriously (frank)ed in the head. Talk to me when he reaches niedermayers or lidstroms potential.
- Mapleleafs_91

Galchenyuk, Grigs, and Murray are right up there with Yakupov skill-wise.

I know I'd take Gally over Yak, no problem. I personally wouldn't take Murray over either of them, but for a team that needs defense, he'd definitely be a good choice. Don't mistake a lack of flash for a lack of skill... Murray does everything right... he'll play top PP and top PK minutes on just about any team. He's the safest bet for a #1 d-man in this draft.

And bringing up Erik Johnson as a reason not to take a d-man high is just stupid, and easily countered with... I don't know... Drew (frank)ing Doughty.

They don't need another top 5 bust draft pick.
- daeth

very true Columbus cannot afford a dud this time around they really need a player to step in this year as well who could make an impact. For Columbus's sake please take the safe and great pick.

very true Columbus cannot afford a dud this time around they really need a player to step in this year as well who could make an impact. For Columbus's sake please take the safe and great pick.
- LEAFSfan28191

You'd think they would have to take the safe pick.

You still dont understand how easy it is to acquire defensemen. Edmonton has next years draft to acquire a defensemen since i guarantee they wont win the lottery. Second, they have hemsky, MPS, Hartkainen, Gagne, and Anton Lander as assets that can land them defenders, come on Edmonton is not stupid, they DO NOT have to trade their 1st rounder 2012 or draft ryan murray. There is plenty of defenders in the league and not so much good prospects of guy who acheived over 100 pts in 60 games and his the top draft choice out of all the players. That sir, is the difference why Edmonton's GM would be shot if he drafted murray as #1
- Mapleleafs_91

You don't understand how hard it is to acquire a true #1 d-man.

Gimme a break he played better than phaenuf at the world championships this summer. Tsn said gardiner was the next niedermayer possibly now thats a joke stop crying cause he won't fall to the leafs
- Jake_1723

Why would i cry about ryan murray? We have a set defense core with also the likes of justin schultz on his way. You dont cry when schultz comes to toronto and we dont take luongo Murray is already better than phaneuf oh wow you are something else my friend, lemme ask you this... Can murray hit like phaneuf? can murray fight like phaneuf? does murray have a bomb of a shot? can murray ever be as offensive as phaneuf? no no no and NO! Is he better defensively? Yeah i guess he is but oh well.

You still dont understand how easy it is to acquire defensemen. Edmonton has next years draft to acquire a defensemen since i guarantee they wont win the lottery. Second, they have hemsky, MPS, Hartkainen, Gagne, and Anton Lander as assets that can land them defenders, come on Edmonton is not stupid, they DO NOT have to trade their 1st rounder 2012 or draft ryan murray. There is plenty of defenders in the league and not so much good prospects of guy who acheived over 100 pts in 60 games and his the top draft choice out of all the players. That sir, is the difference why Edmonton's GM would be shot if he drafted murray as #1
- Mapleleafs_91

I hope you know its much easier to find a talented scoring winger than a #1 dman..

You don't understand how hard it is to acquire a true #1 d-man.
- Schenn-Sational!

Eric Johnson was drafted 1st overall, does that mean hes one of the best defenders in the league? nope there are several better defenders in the league.

Galchenyuk, Grigs, and Murray are right up there with Yakupov skill-wise.

I know I'd take Gally over Yak, no problem. I personally wouldn't take Murray over either of them, but for a team that needs defense, he'd definitely be a good choice. Don't mistake a lack of flash for a lack of skill... Murray does everything right... he'll play top PP and top PK minutes on just about any team. He's the safest bet for a #1 d-man in this draft.

And bringing up Erik Johnson as a reason not to take a d-man high is just stupid, and easily countered with... I don't know... Drew (frank)ing Doughty.
- Schenn-Sational!

Drew Doughty is a wussy.

Drew Doughty is a wussy.
- Mapleleafs_91

With a cup.

Eric Johnson was drafted 1st overall, does that mean hes one of the best defenders in the league? nope there are several better defenders in the league.
- Mapleleafs_91

Was Denis Potvin a mistake??? One of the greatest ALL TIME