Yes, yes you can. Though eberle is a really good player and giroux had 112 pts in 63 games when he was drafted... whoever didnt pick him earlier were morons
- Mapleleafs_91

Daigle had 137 points in 53 games....

Rads is better than hemmer no doubt. But hes gone. Went back to khl apparently
- hugefemale dog77

Rads was never playing another game in the NHL again... The money he wanted wasn't going to be paid by any NHL team.

Claude Giroux here averaged 103 pts in 69 games, then the year he was drafted averaged 112 pts in 63 games in the QMJHL, yet was picked 22nd overall..... that my friends is stupidity. Especially with the leafs, who picked tlusty for some odd reason? What a joke Dumbass scouts we and the rest of the teams had
- Mapleleafs_91

Corey Locke

Daigle had 137 points in 53 games....
- peddy-93

Yeah so he was a bust, you still have to take that guy, you cant say no to that and thats 1/100 they are busts, most 1st overalls come out strong and are excellent players in the nhl

Corey Locke
- yea-ok-buddy

Who?

Yes, yes you can. Though eberle is a really good player and giroux had 112 pts in 63 games when he was drafted... whoever didnt pick him earlier were morons
- Mapleleafs_91

The Q is full of players that put up massive point totals and amount to nothing.

Corey Locke
- yea-ok-buddy

i checked his stats, why hasnt he ever played much in the NHL?

Yeah so he was a bust, you still have to take that guy, you cant say no to that and thats 1/100 they are busts, most 1st overalls come out strong and are excellent players in the nhl
- Mapleleafs_91

Honestly, I think one of the biggest problems here is the way you right... it's damned near unintelligible.

i checked his stats, why hasnt he ever played much in the NHL?
- Mapleleafs_91

Not good enough for the NHL level, which is why points don't tell the whole story where people are drafted.

The Q is full of players that put up massive point totals and amount to nothing.
- Schenn-Sational!

So since giroux was drafted from Q, and grigorenko is from the Q league, does this mean grigorenko has some potential after all hes gunna be a steal in the draft, very underrated.

The Q is full of players that put up massive point totals and amount to nothing.
- Schenn-Sational!

with one MAJOR MAJOR exception, along with a few others of course

Who?




- peddy-93

151 points in the O during his draft year, went in the 4th round.

Not good enough for the NHL level, which is why points don't tell the whole story where people are drafted.
- yea-ok-buddy

He was never given a chance in the NHL, nor a full season. You cant say that. And thats my point on kadri, give him a full season to see what he can do then underrate the kid.

Claude Giroux here averaged 103 pts in 69 games, then the year he was drafted averaged 112 pts in 63 games in the QMJHL, yet was picked 22nd overall..... that my friends is stupidity. Especially with the leafs, who picked tlusty for some odd reason? What a joke Dumbass scouts we and the rest of the teams had
- Mapleleafs_91

do you know what average means?

So since giroux was drafted from Q, and grigorenko is from the Q league, does this mean grigorenko has some potential after all hes gunna be a steal in the draft, very underrated.
- Mapleleafs_91

he's not underrated, scouts say his skill level is the same as and if not better than yaks.. the reason he dropped is his work ethic concerns

Honestly, I think one of the biggest problems here is the way you right... it's damned near unintelligible.
- Schenn-Sational!

I type like im talking to you like in person, not writing essays haha

He was never given a chance in the NHL, nor a full season. You cant say that. And thats my point on kadri, give him a full season to see what he can do then underrate the kid.
- Mapleleafs_91

Corey Locke has just never ever been good enough to crack the NHL, Kadri has.

do you know what average means?
- Schenn-Sational!

our entire team is average, he must know..

I type like im talking to you like in person, not writing essays haha
- Mapleleafs_91

Do you often find that people give you blank stares when you talk to them?

So since giroux was drafted from Q, and grigorenko is from the Q league, does this mean grigorenko has some potential after all hes gunna be a steal in the draft, very underrated.
- Mapleleafs_91

That's like the exact opposite of what I'm saying. But, yea, sure.

Corey Locke has just never ever been good enough to crack the NHL, Kadri has.
- yea-ok-buddy

Corey Locke has played like 2 games in the nhl(sarcasm actually like 7) how in the HELL does that prove anything? No logic in your statement unless he is given a proven full season in the NHL, which is a joke in my opinion like kadri who should be given a chance to play a full season because he has POTENTIAL. Not some poop like connolly, bozak, lombardi, etc bozak here nothing more than a third liner which he has proven playing full seasons where clearly is not capable of being a 1st line centerman

He was never given a chance in the NHL, nor a full season. You cant say that. And thats my point on kadri, give him a full season to see what he can do then underrate the kid.
- Mapleleafs_91

Skating is usually the issue in these types of cases.
Great hands by themselves can and have torn up the junior level. but if you're not a great skater, you'll fail at the nhl level.

It can be worked on and overcome, but i think this might be the case with guys like kadri, toffoli etc.
Or corey locke, who doesnt even deserve a shot unless he becomes a far better skater.
* see rob schremp

In my opinion, most scouts are morons and project stupid things and make stupid comparisons. Statistics are statistics and i stand by them very strongly. If the player is a bust, hes a bust, but you know you went into a draft selecting the best player because he got those statistics for a reason. Majority of the time those players are not busts, you have those selected few that are or never reached their full potential or in some cases like we have been talking about, never given a real chance to play in the NHL for a full season to prove themselves.

I look forward to this friday to see who we draft, either we move down to draft galchenyuk or we stay put and draft one of forsberg or grigorenko.

Skating is usually the issue in these types of cases.
Great hands by themselves can and have torn up the junior level. but if you're not a great skater, you'll fail at the nhl level.

It can be worked on and overcome, but i think this might be the case with guys like kadri, toffoli etc.
- hugefemale dog77

Toffoli has incredible statistics, kadri had good statistics as well, but its about giving these guys a chance to see what they can do and how they improve themselves each year getting better not worse.

In my opinion, most scouts are morons and project stupid things and make stupid comparisons. Statistics are statistics and i stand by them very strongly. If the player is a bust, hes a bust, but you know you went into a draft selecting the best player because he got those statistics for a reason. Majority of the time those players are not busts, you have those selected few that are or never reached their full potential or in some cases like we have been talking about, never given a real chance to play in the NHL for a full season to prove themselves.

I look forward to this friday to see who we draft, either we move down to draft galchenyuk or we stay put and draft one of forsberg or grigorenko.
- Mapleleafs_91