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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:28 AM ET
Kessel had better stats than Toews in 2006... why didn't Chicago take Kessel over him?
- Schenn-Sational!



Theres literally thousands of these you could come up with.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:28 AM ET
Who do you think is better?


Btw, Brassard had 116 points in 50-odd games. Why didn't he got first overall?

- Schenn-Sational!


Well kessels a winger and toews is a center. Cant really compare but id rather have toews since the leafs have no centers at all
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:29 AM ET
Why, you wouldnt pick brassard who had 116 pts in 50 games?
- Mapleleafs_91

I give up. I refuse to believe you're a real person.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:29 AM ET
Well kessels a winger and toews is a center. Cant really compare but id rather have toews since the leafs have no centers at all
- Mapleleafs_91


I could be wrong but Kessel was a center when he was drafted.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:29 AM ET
Apples and oranges.

1. They made the team on merit outta camp
2. They quickly proved they were the best options available.
( as good as they are and will be-this is one of the reasons we're so bad. 19 year olds are our best players. I think all will be stars, but dont kid yourself into thinking the nuge is at datsyuks level yet)
3.mgmt really had no choice but to play them. The fans demanded it.
4. Neither locke, nor kadri are on eberles level at this point. Not even close

- hugefemale dog77


Nuge here, best player on your team. Hes incredible.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:30 AM ET
I could be wrong but Kessel was a center when he was drafted.
- yea-ok-buddy

Yup. Also, Backstrom had only 26 points that year. Why would anybody waste a top-10 pick on him?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:30 AM ET
I give up. I refuse to believe you're a real person.
- Schenn-Sational!


Is that a problem taking a chance for a guy who dominates leagues? My bad for thinking guys who dominate their leagues are terrible players to draft
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:31 AM ET
Is that a problem taking a chance for a guy who dominates leagues? My bad for thinking guys who dominate their leagues are terrible players to draft
- Mapleleafs_91

No. People are not this dumb. I refuse to believe it.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:32 AM ET
Yup. Also, Backstrom had only 26 points that year. Why would anybody waste a top-10 pick on him?
- Schenn-Sational!


Jordan Staal had 68, went second , Whats this guy blabbering on about?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:32 AM ET
Leafs management is a joke, our scouts are terrible and it is proven countless times year after year, and all you people complain ohhh we cant have any good prospects... hmmmmm i wonder why Because our scouts are dumbasses
- Mapleleafs_91

The real knuckleheads are the managers who refuse to fire them and build a proper scouting department. As a Canucks fan I know what I'm talking about, sadly!
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:33 AM ET
Jordan Staal had 68, went second , Whats this guy blabbering on about?
- yea-ok-buddy

Apparently stats are everything. Anything else scouts look at is stupid. Scouts are stupid. Stats are king.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:33 AM ET
Nuge here, best player on your team. Hes incredible.
- Mapleleafs_91


At the moment i gotta say eberle is. Its debateable i guess.
But long term, im inclined to agree with you about the nuge.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:33 AM ET
The real knuckleheads are the managers who refuse to fire them and build a proper scouting department. As a Canucks fan I know what I'm talking about, sadly!
- LeftCoaster


Actually Nonis and Burke have done a hell of job getting prospects, compared to JFJ.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:34 AM ET
No. People are not this dumb. I refuse to believe it.
- Schenn-Sational!


Your statement makes no sense, you refuse to select the best possible player who singe handly dominates either the OHL, QMHL, etc etc leagues yet say they are terrible choices? Yes you have to analyze each player but statistics play a major role. Plus backstrom had 40 pts in 45 games when selected, swedes are not known to destroy in statistics or have a high ratio of points for the number of games played
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:35 AM ET
Actually Nonis and Burke have done a hell of job getting prospects, compared to JFJ.
- yea-ok-buddy

I was thinking more yester-year than your current situation.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:36 AM ET
Your statement makes no sense, you refuse to select the best possible player who singe handly dominates either the OHL, QMHL, etc etc leagues yet say they are terrible choices? Yes you have to analyze each player but statistics play a major role. Plus backstrom had 40 pts in 45 games when selected, swedes are not known to destroy in statistics or have a high ratio of points for the number of games played
- Mapleleafs_91


Seriously, drop the act.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:36 AM ET
Your statement makes no sense, you refuse to select the best possible player who singe handly dominates either the OHL, QMHL, etc etc leagues yet say they are terrible choices? Yes you have to analyze each player but statistics play a major role. Plus backstrom had 40 pts in 45 games when selected, swedes are not known to destroy in statistics or have a high ratio of points for the number of games played
- Mapleleafs_91


You listing all these numbers that players got the year after they were drafted.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:37 AM ET
You listing all these numbers that players got the year after they were drafted.
- yea-ok-buddy

It's part of the character.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:37 AM ET
You listing all these numbers that players got the year after they were drafted.
- yea-ok-buddy


And then arguing about those numbers
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:38 AM ET
Landeskogs production paled in comparison to some of his draft eligible peers.
Went 2nd and is about to win the calder.

Outside of the nuge, theres not a player in last years draft id rather have.
When it comes to players like gabriel or j. Staal, its about so much more than numbers.

U must be able to see this?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:39 AM ET
You listing all these numbers that players got the year after they were drafted.
- yea-ok-buddy


true haha, though my point is like crosby for example got 168 pts in 62 games in the QMJHL.. your telling me statistics mean nothing? Obviously scouts look at other things as well, but statistics plays a huge role in selection. Proving that the leafs are morons selecting tlusty over giroux.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:40 AM ET
Landeskogs production paled in comparison to some of his draft eligible peers.
Went 2nd and is about to win the calder.

Outside of the nuge, theres not a player in last years draft id rather have.
When it comes to playets like gabriel or j. Staal its about so much more than numbers.

U must be able to see this?

- hugefemale dog77

Nicklas Jensen, who Burke passed over, is going to be one of those type of players. 50-60 pts in junior but he's going to be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL IMO, Nucks picked him at 29th.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:41 AM ET
Your statement makes no sense, you refuse to select the best possible player who singe handly dominates either the OHL, QMHL, etc etc leagues yet say they are terrible choices? Yes you have to analyze each player but statistics play a major role. Plus backstrom had 40 pts in 45 games when selected, swedes are not known to destroy in statistics or have a high ratio of points for the number of games played
- Mapleleafs_91


Thats just it!!!!!!! Its not just about numbers!! That doesnt make them the best player possible! Potential is the key.
This has been proven so many thousands of times its not even debateable!
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:41 AM ET
true haha, though my point is like crosby for example got 168 pts in 62 games in the QMJHL.. your telling me statistics mean nothing? Obviously scouts look at other things as well, but statistics plays a huge role in selection. Proving that the leafs are morons selecting tlusty over giroux.
- Mapleleafs_91


Hindsight is great right?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:41 AM ET
Landeskogs production paled in comparison to some of his draft eligible peers.
Went 2nd and is about to win the calder.

Outside of the nuge, theres not a player in last years draft id rather have.
When it comes to playets like gabriel or j. Staal its about so much more than numbers.

U must be able to see this?

- hugefemale dog77


I do, though im saying for first overalls who surpass the norm and just dominates the league you have to pick as a draft choice like crosby, like the stamkos, like the brassards, like the nuges, like the halls, like the yakopovs, you cant just say NO to players like that.. thats down right stupid.
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