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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
I don't think they'd do that if it were their only move...
- LeachHextall27

I have said it numerous times, but the move I would look to make would be to get E. Kane and Enstrom out of WPG....

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
Dream trade:

JVR, Read, Bourdon, 1st and 2nd for

Ryan, Schultz, and 6th overall.

- flyersfan51



Schultz is a UFA on July 1 who is going to hit the market.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
what would you consider Carter?
- nastyflyergirl



I would not consider Carter a star player. And in my opinion, Carter is a better player then Ryan is.
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
thats a mightyyy big risk.. What if you make that move and then Nashville decides to hold onto Weber?
- jak521


Well you wouldn't do it unless Nashville accepts. So basically, it's a 3-team trade. In essence at least.
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
I would not consider Carter a star player. And in my opinion, Carter is a better player then Ryan is.
- MJL


Agree with the first statement. Second one is at the very least debateable.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
Schultz is a UFA on July 1 who is going to hit the market.
- MJL


I think he becomes a free agent on sunday.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
Look, i love Read. But if were getting back Ryan, i think i could accept him getting traded. Ryan would be amazing with G.
- FLYERSROCK!


Plus, it would allow Hartnell to team up with Briere again.

Team core
Giroux/Ryan
Briere/Hartnell
Schenn/Simmonds
Coots/Talbot

Filll in the blanks with the remainder.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
Well you wouldn't do it unless Nashville accepts. So basically, it's a 3-team trade. In essence at least.
- LeachHextall27

I just dont see Nashville agreeing to 3 firsts for Weber..

If I were Poile.. to even start a conversation about trading Weber I would ask for a top 6 forward and top 4 d-man.. and potentially a first or their top prospect.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
And to reply about our 3rd line:

Wellwood-Couts-Simms/Voracek
Sestito-Talbot-Rinaldo

Tah dah!
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:14 PM ET
I just dont see Nashville agreeing to 3 firsts for Weber..

If I were Poile.. to even start a conversation about trading Weber I would ask for a top 6 forward and top 4 d-man.. and potentially a first or their top prospect.

- jak521


It would be 3 firsts AND Voracek in that scenario, with them likely taking Reinhart or Dumba with the 6th pick.

flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:15 PM ET
Plus, it would allow Hartnell to team up with Briere again.

Team core
Giroux/Ryan
Briere/Hartnell
Schenn/Simmonds
Coots/Talbot

Filll in the blanks with the remainder.

- leon neon


sold.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:15 PM ET
I would not consider Carter a star player. And in my opinion, Carter is a better player then Ryan is.
- MJL

And on top of it.. Ryan has been on a very successful line.. He has put up very solid totals while playing with Getzlaf and Perry.

***I know yesterday I was arguing against this very train of thought, but I also stated several times I understand player do benefit from playing with certain other players.. just not to a degree of increasing your point total by 30+ points***
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
And on top of it.. Ryan has been on a very successful line.. He has put up very solid totals while playing with Getzlaf and Perry.

***I know yesterday I was arguing against this very train of thought, but I also stated several times I understand player do benefit from playing with certain other players.. just not to a degree of increasing your point total by 30+ points***

- jak521


Yup. Getzlaf is one of the best playmaking centers in the league too without question.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
It would be 3 firsts AND Voracek in that scenario, with them likely taking Reinhart or Dumba with the 6th pick.
- LeachHextall27

To me it doesnt matter who you take with that pick.. I would want guys that will help NOW.

Nashville isnt a team that is looking to restock the cupboard.. they want to win a cup.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
Please keep the boys together, Homer....
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
Could you guys imagine Schultz on this team!? I know its a pipe dream, but how nasty would this be? Along with Ryan + 6th

Kimmo- 6th overall
Coburn-Schultz
Mezzy-Grossmann
Lilja
Gus

Defence problem: Solved.
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
To me it doesnt matter who you take with that pick.. I would want guys that will help NOW.

Nashville isnt a team that is looking to restock the cupboard.. they want to win a cup.

- jak521


That wouldnt be the case if they lost both Suter and Weber though....right?
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
Could you guys imagine Schultz on this team!? I know its a pipe dream, but how nasty would this be? Along with Ryan + 6th

Kimmo- 6th overall
Coburn-Schultz
Mezzy-Grossmann
Lilja
Gus

Defence problem: Solved.

- FLYERSROCK!


now work on the "team defense"

tell me how we got Schultz, 6th overall and Ryan.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
Could you guys imagine Schultz on this team!? I know its a pipe dream, but how nasty would this be? Along with Ryan + 6th

Kimmo- 6th overall
Coburn-Schultz
Mezzy-Grossmann
Lilja
Gus

Defence problem: Solved.

- FLYERSROCK!

I would be terrified with that set up..

And thank god.. it would never happen.
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
now work on the "team defense"

tell me how we got Schultz, 6th overall and Ryan.

- flyersfan51


Schenn...

Which Homer shouldn't do.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
All of a sudden I'm thinkin' of 1970, Sly Stone:

Everybody is a star
I can feel it when you shine on me
I love you for who you are
Not the one you feel you need to be
Ever catch a falling star
Ain't no stopping 'til it's in the ground
Everybody is a star
One big circle going round and round
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
That wouldnt be the case if they lost both Suter and Weber though....right?
- LeachHextall27

Exactly why I still dont think they will trade Weber..

I went over this yesterday.. I honestly think Suter signs elsewhere, the Preds ink Weber long term, and then try to get Parise..
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
Exactly why I still dont think they will trade Weber..

I went over this yesterday.. I honestly think Suter signs elsewhere, the Preds ink Weber long term, and then try to get Parise..

- jak521


Very possible.

It's just an idea, although I do think it's possible the Preds deal Weber today.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
Schenn...

Which Homer shouldn't do.

- LeachHextall27


I hope they don't trade Schenn.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
He looks like HIS gut is tied in knots!
- bodiva88

That is the female dinosaur Ducky, not a dude named Duc from Kentucky.
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