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phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:42 AM ET
yes! no! maybe?
- hammarby31



could be! Possibly! no way!!
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
Only four players have scored 30+ goals in each of the past five seasons.

Rick Nash is one of them. Playing for Columbus. Without a #1 center.

- bradleyc4


lol fu
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
So the rumor is that the Oilers dont want Nail.. and CBJ doesnt either...

IF either team was willing to trade their pick for JvR... would you do it?

- jak521


Yep.

Then sit back and watch Tambellini and Howsen immediately fired.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:49 AM ET
“@DarrenDreger: Hoping this isn't the case, but could be quiet day on trade front. Not many top end guys avail and too many teams involved. #TSN”
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:49 AM ET
i am going to laugh so hard if yakupov doesn't get picked first.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:50 AM ET
“@DarrenDreger: Hoping this isn't the case, but could be quiet day on trade front. Not many top end guys avail and too many teams involved. #TSN”
- funmaster18






No! No God Please No!
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:51 AM ET
“@DarrenDreger: Hoping this isn't the case, but could be quiet day on trade front. Not many top end guys avail and too many teams involved. #TSN”
- funmaster18


c'mon guys, grow a set and make some deals
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:54 AM ET
c'mon guys, grow a set and make some deals
- the deaninator




Just throw more wood on it before it dies


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the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:58 AM ET
Just throw more wood on it before it dies


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- aosplayo


im going to start making crazy twitter rumors and see what sticks out there.


ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:58 AM ET
Just throw more wood on it before it dies


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- aosplayo


I do believe Schenn and Coots will be at training camp with the Flyers.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:01 AM ET
Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers
The Flyers would like to wish goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov a very happy birthday!


Hope they get him so defense for his bday lol
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:01 AM ET
I do believe Schenn and Coots will be at training camp with the Flyers.
- ravishingone





I do too. Im burned out from all this. If so many teams are interested in JVR that says something. Give it another year and keep an eye on Nashville at trade deadline time with Weber.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers
The Flyers would like to wish goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov a very happy birthday!


Hope they get him so defense for his bday lol

- Philly1980


or a bear
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
I do too. Im burned out from all this. If so many teams are interested in JVR that says something. Give it another year and keep an eye on Nashville at trade deadline time with Weber.
- aosplayo


Im sure he will score 50 goals somewhere else with out our poop medical/training staff around to screw up his health.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:05 AM ET
Im sure he will score 50 goals somewhere else with out our poop medical/training staff around to screw up his health.
- funmaster18


you're coming along nicely, son.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:05 AM ET
I do too. Im burned out from all this. If so many teams are interested in JVR that says something. Give it another year and keep an eye on Nashville at trade deadline time with Weber.
- aosplayo


I find all the rumors interesting. However, I am a little concerned about the top 6 d-men. With Kimmo and Meszy coming off back surgery is very concerning. Supposedly both are recovering well, I still wouldn't be shocked to someone significant added this offseason besides resigning Carle.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:06 AM ET
you're coming along nicely, son.
- OrangeBlack27

Like a fine wine, I get better with age.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:07 AM ET
i am going to laugh so hard if yakupov doesn't get picked first.
- OrangeBlack27


It wouldn't be surprising to see the Oil, who have a load of young forwards, drop down a bit to select Murray, Rielly, or Dumba and pick up another asset as well.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:08 AM ET
Like a fine wine, I get better with age.
- funmaster18



with the screw top, a bag or a cork
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:08 AM ET
I find all the rumors interesting. However, I am a little concerned about the top 6 d-men. With Kimmo and Meszy coming off back surgery is very concerning. Supposedly both are recovering well, I still wouldn't be shocked to someone significant added this offseason besides resigning Carle.
- ravishingone




Yea I wouldnt be shocked either, but the options just dont seem to be there. I posted a list of FAs the other day and the top 3 will be overpaid. Gill had the best value as a filler until next year imo. But maybe the Yandle stuff will stir things up, but what's he worth? Not JVR
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:11 AM ET
I have no doubt that JVR will be a 30 goal scorer (when healthy). Why trade a 30 goal scorer who makes 4.25 for one that makes 5.1?
- Jimmygrazz


I have doubt's... And, as you mentioned - Health is a question with JVR - I'd pay $850K for a full year - 82 games. Nothing sucks worse than a key player out during the playoffs. Part of the reason for falling short the last 2-3 seasons in the playoffs was health; JVR, Carter, Lappy, Pronger, Timmo (although he played), Bryz (foot facture just prior to playoffs - stopping a great run), etc...
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:14 AM ET
It wouldn't be surprising to see the Oil, who have a load of young forwards, drop down a bit to select Murray, Rielly, or Dumba and pick up another asset as well.
- 77rams


that would totally make sense. it would not make sense, however, if they stayed at 1 and took murray.

caveat: i am obviously not a scout and am just basing this off of a lot of reading.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:14 AM ET
I have doubt's... And, as you mentioned - Health is a question with JVR - I'd pay $850K for a full year - 82 games. Nothing sucks worse than a key player out during the playoffs. Part of the reason for falling short the last 2-3 seasons in the playoffs was health; JVR, Carter, Lappy, Pronger, Timmo (although he played), Bryz (foot facture just prior to playoffs - stopping a great run), etc...
- leon neon


Before this season, JVR played in 75 and 78 games. I'm not really concerned with his health. It was one bad year of bad luck, IMO.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:14 AM ET
I find all the rumors interesting. However, I am a little concerned about the top 6 d-men. With Kimmo and Meszy coming off back surgery is very concerning. Supposedly both are recovering well, I still wouldn't be shocked to someone significant added this offseason besides resigning Carle.
- ravishingone

Agree. Not to mention Grossmann has missed his share of games over the past few years. They need to keep Carle and add a veteran defender. Homer once said you need to be 8-10 deep on the back end.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:18 AM ET
Yea I wouldnt be shocked either, but the options just dont seem to be there. I posted a list of FAs the other day and the top 3 will be overpaid. Gill had the best value as a filler until next year imo. But maybe the Yandle stuff will stir things up, but what's he worth? Not JVR
- aosplayo


The problem is all teams greatly value top pairing d-men above almost any position as we all know. If Homer trades assests to go up in the draft to hopefully draft a franchise d-man I can't kill him for trying. It would be a risk, but the assets used to move up probably will be significantly less then trying to trade a Weber type in trade. Honestly, as I mentioned before, franchise d-men only become available under special circumstances:

1. Down side of career
2. Organization can't afford to pay them
3. Player nearing UFA status and has no interest in signing with current team

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