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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:40 AM ET


Unless he's packaged for Weber (which ain''t happening).

- 77rams


Next year is only his 3rd season with last year being a wash. His expectations were very high as a number 2 pick. I think he will reach them and he just had a set back in his development last year. He will be a beast in the future.
flyerfan48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IL
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
Would you guys do Philly's 2012 & 2013 1st round picks, JVR, Bob, Read, Bourdon for Anaheim's 2012 1st round pick (6th overall) & Bobby Ryan?
- Jack-Meoff





Homer, please give JVR atleast a full year. We don't need Ryan or Nash. JVR will light it up.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
Before this season, JVR played in 75 and 78 games. I'm not really concerned with his health. It was one bad year of bad luck, IMO.
- funmaster18


3 years in the NHL and 2 concussions, and 3 "lower body" injuries. Although, not held him out of the line up last season - this summers hip issue is a unclear situation and worries me. Hip issues aren't typical. Some of the lower body injuries were groin issue and could be related to the hip. I just think something is up.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:43 AM ET
Would you guys do Philly's 2012 & 2013 1st round picks, JVR, Bob, Read, Bourdon for Anaheim's 2012 1st round pick (6th overall) & Bobby Ryan?
- Jack-Meoff

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:44 AM ET
3 years in the NHL and 2 concussions, and 3 "lower body" injuries. Although, not held him out of the line up last season - this summers hip issue is a unclear situation and worries me. Hip issues aren't typical. Some of the lower body injuries were groin issue and could be related to the hip. I just think something is up.
- leon neon


I think it was bad luck, but we will see. Might not even have to worry about it after today.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
Would you guys do Philly's 2012 & 2013 1st round picks, JVR, Bob, Read, Bourdon for Anaheim's 2012 1st round pick (6th overall) & Bobby Ryan?
- Jack-Meoff


Hell no. Massive overpayment.

Add Sbisa coming back from Anaheim into it, and it'd at least be a little more equal. Still probably wouldn't do it.

OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:46 AM ET
Hell no. Massive overpayment.

Add Sbisa coming back from Anaheim into it, and it'd at least be a little more equal. Still probably wouldn't do it.

- bmeltzer


would you do minny's first and scandella for jvr?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:48 AM ET
would you do minny's first and scandella for jvr?
- OrangeBlack27


Possibly, although Scandella is still a project.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:52 AM ET
Hell no. Massive overpayment.

Add Sbisa coming back from Anaheim into it, and it'd at least be a little more equal. Still probably wouldn't do it.

- bmeltzer


Dreger mentioned it could be a quiet day. Do you have any feelers out there? I know you don't want to discuss rumors and heir likelihood of occurring, but overall do you get an aggressive feeling form the flyers or do you see them satisfied standing pat today?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:53 AM ET
Possibly, although Scandella is still a project.
- bmeltzer


not a finished product, but i like what i've read about him.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:54 AM ET
Dreger mentioned it could be a quiet day. Do you have any feelers out there? I know you don't want to discuss rumors and heir likelihood of occurring, but overall do you get an aggressive feeling form the flyers or do you see them satisfied standing pat today?
- funmaster18


Flyers are always aggressive....some times too much for their own good.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:54 AM ET
Hell no. Massive overpayment.

Add Sbisa coming back from Anaheim into it, and it'd at least be a little more equal. Still probably wouldn't do it.

- bmeltzer


I'd do the deal but us keeping Read.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:54 AM ET
Would you guys do Philly's 2012 & 2013 1st round picks, JVR, Bob, Read, Bourdon for Anaheim's 2012 1st round pick (6th overall) & Bobby Ryan?
- Jack-Meoff



Absolutely not.

There seems to be this belief that Ryan is a star player. He is not.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:55 AM ET
Absolutely not.
- MJL


Sounds more like a trade for Nash and the number 2 pick.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:55 AM ET
Twitter chose a great time to take a crap on us....
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
honestly...the flyers are close....they just need One Defensemen and a better defensive system.....that's it. a full year with Grossmann clearing the net for Bryz. I think Bryz was at his best once we got Grossmann. One more Big Defensemen and we're set.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:57 AM ET
would you do minny's first and scandella for jvr?
- OrangeBlack27


for just JVR? I can do that.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
Hell no. Massive overpayment.

Add Sbisa coming back from Anaheim into it, and it'd at least be a little more equal. Still probably wouldn't do it.

- bmeltzer


You and I are on the same wavelength bill, in regards to adding sbisa to that trade.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
Twitter chose a great time to take a crap on us....
- Philly1980





My bad, I just signed up for the updates......thats my poo
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:02 AM ET
Wonder if they could get Ryan the 6th pick and the rights to Schultz It's a bit of a risk but is they could get Schultz and dumba that's would be nice stepping stone to rebuilding the d
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:03 AM ET
Would you guys do Philly's 2012 & 2013 1st round picks, JVR, Bob, Read, Bourdon for Anaheim's 2012 1st round pick (6th overall) & Bobby Ryan?
- Jack-Meoff

pharcyde
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:03 AM ET
It doesn't make any sense to trade JVR while is trade value is so low compared to where his potential and a full season could take it. Not to mention I think his cap hit is relatively friendly for what he can bring to the table.

So I say if there isn't a trade that makes sense to move up, then stand pat and hope a defenseman you covet falls to you, and if not draft one of Dansk or Subban.
pharcyde
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:04 AM ET
Maybe Grig if he slips to 20 but I doubt it.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
Wonder if they could get Ryan the 6th pick and the rights to Schultz It's a bit of a risk but is they could get Schultz and dumba that's would be nice stepping stone to rebuilding the d
- griouxmvp2012


what would we have to give up? plus, come Sunday, Schultz can go wherever he wants and I don't think he wants to play for the flyers...not sure why though.
TonyBazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
Trade Schenn for Bobby Ryan.  Trade vanRiemsdyk for Luke Schenn.  Then go after Suter, Garrison, Wideman or Schultz (in that order).
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