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Comeback Rico
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:36 PM ET
down to where? 25 or 26?

the guy wasn't projected too far from where they picked by the "experts"....and as many have said, the Flyers can scout forwards in this position in the draft.

- eshake


I think this draft, and many others have shown that teams don't put too much faith in experts...i.e. Teravainen

I just think it might've been worth the risk to drop down a few slots...even dropping 4-5 picks would get you an asset you didn't have before, and you can still get a comparable player. Who knows what the situation was...maybe there wasn't a team below them that valued anyone left on the board enough to trade up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:36 PM ET
What gives you that impression? Cause they selected him at #20?
- stveshdy


Yes!
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:37 PM ET
Shelley and Walker going to Nashville?
- PLindbergh31


Yea, for the jazz festival.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:37 PM ET
Rich Smith‏@ALLsportsINTEL

NHL UPDATE Philadelphia Flyers close to a deal for Nashville Predators D Shea Weber


no idea who this is tho

- nastyflyergirl


mind beginning to be blown.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:38 PM ET
I know nothing about this kid. But my guess is that they see something more in this kid then a checking Center.
- MJL


Using Bill's analogy, i remember thecup teams with Madden and Holik. No reason to predict this kid's future, but that type of player can be invaluable. Mr mjl - werent you the one preaching that defense is a team effort. Hopefully this is a piece of that in two or three years.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:38 PM ET
Maybe see how the kid turns out before making judgement. Or see what else happens. When has Holmgren not put a quality team on the ice?
- MJL

Well its already slated in as 3rd, since G and Couts will be #1 and #2.

Couldve got that not miss prospect in Maata. Decided to pass.

Just frustrated. Ill be fine tomorrow. Im getting my frustration in now instead of when it happened.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:38 PM ET
mind beginning to be blown.
- hammarby31




JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:38 PM ET
Rich Smith‏@ALLsportsINTEL

NHL UPDATE Philadelphia Flyers close to a deal for Nashville Predators D Shea Weber


no idea who this is tho

- nastyflyergirl

hmmm the Wombat's real name!?
hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:39 PM ET
I agree.

An NHL front office person -- who doesn't work for Flyers -- texted me that Laughton has a John Madden type of upside. If it works out that way, fine, Teams need those sorts of players.

Still, I think Flyers could have traded down and gotten same player if that's who they wanted.

- bmeltzer


That's why players don't go off the board exactly as the mock drafts predict. Different teams see the same player differently. I'm fairly certain the Flyers aren't hoping and praying their first round pick just maybe someday, with hard work and a few good breaks, turns into John Madden.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:39 PM ET
Well its already slated in as 3rd, since G and Couts will be #1 and #2.

Couldve got that not miss prospect in Maata. Decided to pass.

Just frustrated. Ill be fine tomorrow. Im getting my frustration in now instead of when it happened.

- FLYERSROCK!


Yea, the "can't miss prospect" that slid down to #22 or whatever. Can't miss guys don't go past #10 or lower.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:41 PM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Laughton loved the boos from the Pens fans: “fuel to the fire”
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:41 PM ET
Yea, the "can't miss prospect" that slid down to #22 or whatever. Can't miss guys don't go past #10 or lower.
- eayost

Cam Fowler and Claude Giroux say "hi"

Also Chris Kreider. Im sure i could go on.
Everyone had Maata going top 13.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:42 PM ET
Cam Fowler and Claude Giroux say "hi"

Also Chris Kreider. Im sure i could go on.
Everyone had Maata going top 13.

- FLYERSROCK!


claude giroux didn't slide....
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:42 PM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Laughton loved the boos from the Pens fans: “fuel to the fire”

- stveshdy


Those were actually Flyers fans who despised the pick.
LeachHextall27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Joined: 06.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:42 PM ET
Leed tweeted just 5 minutes ago that Homer still working phones. Think a big announcement could be coming.

Keep your fingers crossed.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:42 PM ET
That's why players don't go off the board exactly as the mock drafts predict. Different teams see the same player differently. I'm fairly certain the Flyers aren't hoping and praying their first round pick just maybe someday, with hard work and a few good breaks, turns into John Madden.
- hobo



I don't necessarily have a problem with the Madden comparison. Madden was a winner plain and simple - I do believe a three time cup winner. I'm not really concerned where the Flyers pick-up winning talent just as long as they continue to find it.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:43 PM ET
Cam Fowler and Claude Giroux say "hi"

Also Chris Kreider. Im sure i could go on.
Everyone had Maata going top 13.

- FLYERSROCK!

I thought Giroux was slated further down than where the FLyers got him.
ukeman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Yakety Sax, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:43 PM ET
Cam Fowler and Claude Giroux say "hi"

Also Chris Kreider. Im sure i could go on.
Everyone had Maata going top 13.

- FLYERSROCK!

except the teams that picked in the top 21
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:43 PM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Laughton loved the boos from the Pens fans: “fuel to the fire”

- stveshdy


Love it!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:43 PM ET
Those were actually Flyers fans who despised the pick.
- PLindbergh31


Who did you think they were going to take?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:44 PM ET
Cam Fowler and Claude Giroux say "hi"

Also Chris Kreider. Im sure i could go on.
Everyone had Maata going top 13.

- FLYERSROCK!


Claude Giroux wasn't a "can't miss prospect" when he was picked. What part of my statement was too difficult to understand? Giroux being picked where he did only strengthens the point that the Flyers know what they're doing picking in the 20s at the draft
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:44 PM ET
Well glad the Rags screwed up their pick too. Another dman? They did the same thing we did!
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:44 PM ET
Those were actually Flyers fans who despised the pick.
- PLindbergh31


I've gotta trust the Flyers with this pick. They have a pretty good track record when it comes to late first round picks.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:44 PM ET
Love it!
- Emperor Filonius


The Flyers-Pens is building into the Avs-Red Wing wars, it is going to be a lot of fun.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:44 PM ET
I don't necessarily have a problem with the Madden comparison. Madden was a winner plain and simple - I do believe a three time cup winner. I'm not really concerned where the Flyers pick-up winning talent just as long as they continue to find it.
- ravishingone

if that's all the kid becomes that's seriously poor value
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