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bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:45 PM ET
Cam Fowler and Claude Giroux say "hi"

Also Chris Kreider. Im sure i could go on.
Everyone had Maata going top 13.

- FLYERSROCK!

Claude Giroux was considered a reach when he was drafted. He was "too small" but the Flyers believed in Simon Nolet who believed in Claude.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:45 PM ET
Who did you think they were going to take?
- stveshdy


Maatta of course when he fell into their laps. They could have traded way down and likely been able to draft Laughton.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:45 PM ET
Well its already slated in as 3rd, since G and Couts will be #1 and #2.

Couldve got that not miss prospect in Maata. Decided to pass.

Just frustrated. Ill be fine tomorrow. Im getting my frustration in now instead of when it happened.

- FLYERSROCK!


Who says that Maata is can't miss? Usually can't miss players are taken higher.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:46 PM ET
Holy poop! Devils took Matteau!!!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
Holy poop! Devils took Matteau!!!
- FLYERSROCK!


fabulous
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
Maatta of course when he fell into their laps. They could have traded way down and likely been able to draft Laughton.
- PLindbergh31

I thought after the trade with Bob and only have two goals on the AHL roster they would go with Subban.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
Who says that Maata is can't miss? Usually can't miss players are taken higher.
- MJL

Wasn't Joni Pittkanen a can't miss pick as well?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:47 PM ET
Who says that Maata is can't miss? Usually can't miss players are taken higher.
- MJL

agreed, but based on his profile and our needs, I'd feel better w/ maata. w/ homer though, his track record in the 1st is stellar.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:48 PM ET
I've gotta trust the Flyers with this pick. They have a pretty good track record when it comes to late first round picks.
- 77rams


Yeah, majority of these guys are lottery tickets, very few can't miss guys outside the top 10 or so.

The strategy of best available player is one I agree with, but in this instance Maatta filled a need, and by all "experts" accounts was the better talent.

Obviously only time will tell how this pans out, no way to quantify it now.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:48 PM ET
This draft has been on three different channels?

Was the Flyers selection of Laughton on Comedy Central?

- PLindbergh31



lol for real

FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
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Jun 22 @ 10:49 PM ET
Claude Giroux was considered a reach when he was drafted. He was "too small" but the Flyers believed in Simon Nolet who believed in Claude.
- bodiva88

Is it official pick on the teen day? :cry:

I just dont like the pick, like everyone else! I just dont understand why a center, thats all!
hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:49 PM ET
I don't necessarily have a problem with the Madden comparison. Madden was a winner plain and simple - I do believe a three time cup winner. I'm not really concerned where the Flyers pick-up winning talent just as long as they continue to find it.
- ravishingone


I don't have a problem with John Madden. Just pointing out that teams don't select players in the first round with the "upside" of John Madden. So do you put your faith in the Flyers scouts, or an unnamed NHL front office person?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:49 PM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Laughton is probably two or three years away from the NHL. May be one of the most competitive and smartest players in this draft.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:50 PM ET
if that's all the kid becomes that's seriously poor value
- isaiah520


I respect your opinion, but I do believe this pick just leads to other doors that will be opened this offseason. I honestly know nothing about Laughton, he could turn out to be better then Maata, possibly worse. However, I'm convinced more then ever the Flyers will trade for a d-man.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:50 PM ET
I thought after the trade with Bob and only have two goals on the AHL roster they would go with Subban.
- stveshdy


Generally not a great strategy to draft goaltenders in the first round. I didn't want them to go in that direction.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:51 PM ET
Generally not a great strategy to draft goaltenders in the first round. I didn't want them to go in that direction.
- PLindbergh31


Will see who becomes the better player years from now.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:52 PM ET
Wasn't Joni Pittkanen a can't miss pick as well?
- the deaninator


Pavel Brendl, Ryan Sittler, Alex Daigle, Pat Falloon...

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:53 PM ET
The Penguins are "looking into" trading for Ryan Suter's rights, according to Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh-Tribune Review. General manager Ray Shero has been all over the map Friday night. First, he sends Jordan Staal to the Hurricanes in a draft-day blockbuster, then rumors surface that Pittsburgh will pursue Zach Parise if the Devils can't lock him up. The Penguins are also said to be shopping defenseman Paul Martin, who is due to make $5 million, so that would free up cap space in addition to the Staal move. Up to this point, the Predators haven't seemed willing to move Suter's rights, but perhaps an enticing package could make them change their minds.
Source: Rob Rossi on Twitter
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:53 PM ET
I respect your opinion, but I do believe this pick just leads to other doors that will be opened this offseason. I honestly know nothing about Laughton, he could turn out to be better then Maata, possibly worse. However, I'm convinced more then ever the Flyers will trade for a d-man.
- ravishingone

only a couple of this yrs Dmen were ready to step in anyway. the point is that the org depth on d and in goal is wanting.

I def think the flyers will add a significant dman on or before July 1.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:53 PM ET
Will see who becomes the better player years from now.
- stveshdy


Subban may be blocked by Rask for 10 years.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:54 PM ET
Holy poop! Devils took Matteau!!!
- FLYERSROCK!


Strangely ironic.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:54 PM ET
Subban may be blocked by Rask for 10 years.
- PLindbergh31


Very possible. He also could be a valuable trade chip.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:55 PM ET
Subban may be blocked by Rask for 10 years.
- PLindbergh31


don't forget this guy:

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 22 @ 10:55 PM ET
Again

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If you didn’t read it on a HockeyBuzz blog, please link to legitimate news source. There's too much going on in the REAL hockey world without posting fake rumors and trades. If you have a REAL source, email Eklund.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:55 PM ET
Subban may be blocked by Rask for 10 years.
- PLindbergh31

yeah, but if risk becomes a contract headache they could have flexibility. notice that BOS is committed to having top shelf goalie options.
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