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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:29 AM ET
@DarrenDreger: Expect the Penguins to announce Sidney Crosby's contract extension on Sunday. Over $100 million dollars with an AAV of close to $9 mil per.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:29 AM ET
“@DarrenDreger: Ready for this?  Big news coming..”
- funmaster18

Luongo is back with the Panthers?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:30 AM ET
He would still have agree to it first . Even if the Flyers let Carle and Jagr walk, re-sign Voracek ($3.0 M estimate), re-sign Bourdon ($900K estimate) and a backup goalie ($800,000), plan to waive Shelley ($1.1M) and can find a taker for Lilja ($737,500, over-35 contract) via minor trade, they will have $7.914M of cap space.

Sign Parise at $7.9 M and there's a mere $140,000 of cap space plus Pronger's LTIR to get through the entire season. And that's with carrying the absolute minimum (6 D, 12 forward) number of skaters.

It isn't realistic.

- bmeltzer


Or use that money on Ryan Suter.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:30 AM ET
Your correct, I was wrong about Read. But Schultz isn't eligible for a one way deal I believe.
- MJL



age thing?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:30 AM ET
Carle, Jagr, Nitty and Homer is done
- vejim


Niitty is meeting with doctors this summer. He might have to take a year off or retire because of the chronic hip problems, according to a report in Finland last month.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:31 AM ET
@DarrenDreger: Expect the Penguins to announce Sidney Crosby's contract extension on Sunday. Over $100 million dollars with an AAV of close to $9 mil per.
- nastyflyergirl


Well they won't be signing Parise, or Suter. Not going to extend Crosby at 100 million than turn around and give Suter or Parise 50 million.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:33 AM ET
Well they won't be signing Parise, or Suter. Not going to extend Crosby at 100 million than turn around and give Suter or Parise 50 million.
- PLindbergh31



you know Malkin will get the same or similar contract too. wow
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:33 AM ET
@DarrenDreger: Expect the Penguins to announce Sidney Crosby's contract extension on Sunday. Over $100 million dollars with an AAV of close to $9 mil per.
- nastyflyergirl


Or, slightly more than $2 million/season more than Bouwmeester.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
@DarrenDreger: Expect the Penguins to announce Sidney Crosby's contract extension on Sunday. Over $100 million dollars with an AAV of close to $9 mil per.
- nastyflyergirl


Not much more than his annual salary now of 8.7 million.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
@DarrenDreger: Expect the Penguins to announce Sidney Crosby's contract extension on Sunday. Over $100 million dollars with an AAV of close to $9 mil per.
- nastyflyergirl

wow, alot of money for a concussed player
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 28 @ 11:35 AM ET
Well they won't be signing Parise, or Suter. Not going to extend Crosby at 100 million than turn around and give Suter or Parise 50 million.
- PLindbergh31



Why not?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:35 AM ET
“@DarrenDreger: Ready for this?  Big news coming..”
- funmaster18


Yah we know Carle to ufa
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:35 AM ET
you know Malkin will get the same or similar contract too. wow
- nastyflyergirl


Yup, most likely. Penguins were on the verge of going bankrupt not long ago, and now this. Unreal. A franchise player like Crosby, and a new building will do that.

Why couldn't the Flyers have had their season from hell in 04-05?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:36 AM ET
@DarrenDreger: Expect the Penguins to announce Sidney Crosby's contract extension on Sunday. Over $100 million dollars with an AAV of close to $9 mil per.
- nastyflyergirl


Should we be surprised?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
I agree, the hype is utterly ridiculous.

I love Bobby Ryan......grew up with his cousin and even attended my first game asa 10 year old with his cousin and grandfather so I have always followed him. but that said I am not about to overpay if it were my decision. I would not move the rumored Voracek, dman and a first for him. Just wouldn't do it.

- nastyflyergirl

sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
If Carle's cap hit is going to be over $5 mil, I think the team would have to look at going a different direction. If they plan on trading for Bobby Ryan, then I think its imperative they sign Carle but assuming they don't make the trade, what if the Flyers did this:

Cap space: $11,481,000 mil

1) Re-sign Voracek at an estimated $3.0 mil- (Space left: 8,481,000)
2) Sign a backup goalie like Clemmensen at approx 900k (space left: 7,381,000)
3) Re-sign Sesito at $650l- (Space left $6,731,000)
4) Sign Ray Whitney or Jagr for $3,0 mil- (Space left $3,731,000)
5) Sign one of these defenseman:
O'Brien, Colaiacovo, Hannan, Sarich, or Kuba to fill 6th defensemen (none more than $2.75 mil- (Space left- $980k)

6) Trade MAB- he can't be sent down and shouldn't just sit in the press box- maybe get a 3rd round pick)

They can waive Shelley and have approximately $2.080 cap space, before waiving Bartulius and Walker. Add Pronger on LTIR- they would gain some more space to make an in-season move- approximately $4.5mil)

Whitney-Giroux-Hartnell
Schenn-Briere-Simmonds
Voracek-Couturier-Read
Wellwood-Talbot-Sesito/Rinaldo

Grossmann-Coburn
Timonen-Schenn
Meszaros-vet UFA

(Lilja)

You still can call up Gustafsson/Manning

Bryzgalov/Clemmensen

fivedollarsheep
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.04.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
wow, alot of money for a concussed player
- vejim


The beginning of the end

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
does anyone know if TOI includes PIM?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:38 AM ET
Or, slightly more than $2 million/season more than Bouwmeester.
- bradleyc4



wow that is nuts I would have flipped if the Flyers traded for that contract. meh
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:39 AM ET
Yup, most likely. Penguins were on the verge of going bankrupt not long ago, and now this. Unreal. A franchise player like Crosby, and a new building will do that.

Why couldn't the Flyers have had their season from hell in 04-05?

- PLindbergh31



the Pens had the 20th worst record going into the Crosby draft
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
wow that is nuts I would have flipped if the Flyers traded for that contract. meh
- nastyflyergirl


Any sane or knowledgeable fan would. There are also those who would get together in a garage and play the Spin Doctors greatest hits if they signed Shelley to a 4 yr extension.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
Or use that money on Ryan Suter.
- bradleyc4

Would you pair him with schenn?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
the Pens had the 20th worst record going into the Crosby draft
- nastyflyergirl


Oh that's right. I forgot about that.

BuTTman rigging the draft.
TonyBazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
not a chance. i like clemmer
- MrBigglesworth


I like Scott Clemmenson a lot too, but what if they don't get him? I like Hovinen.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:42 AM ET
the Pens had the 20th worst record going into the Crosby draft
- nastyflyergirl



2005 -- This was the most unique Draft Drawing. Because the 2004-05 NHL season was cancelled, there was not a final standings to determine the Entry Draft order. Therefore, the Draft Drawing held on July 22 included all 30 teams and a special weighted system. Teams were assigned one to three lottery balls based on their playoff appearances from 2001-02 through 2003-04 and first overall draft picks from the drafts of 2001 through 2004. Four clubs had the greatest chance of receiving the first overall selection (6.3 percent) -- the Buffalo Sabres, Columbus Blue Jackets, New York Rangers and Pittsburgh Penguins.

Ten teams had two lottery balls (4.2 percent chance), and 16 were given one ball (2.1 percent).

Pittsburgh won the drawing and the right to select first in the Entry Draft, held eight days later. Not surprisingly, the Penguins chose the consensus No. 1 pick, Sidney Crosby.
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