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Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:06 AM ET
Hate paying guys
- bradleyc4



fixed
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:07 AM ET
Hard to add bats and a bullpen when your tapped out money wise especially if they sign Hamels to a huge contract. They have to move some players.
- stveshdy


Blanton's gone after this year too. Regardless, they aren't even close to not being able to afford players, they just act like they don't want to incur the luxury tax but I honestly think they are cool with resigning Cole to a big deal. Also, they don't need to add a stud bat but some scrappy ones. A guy like Rafael Furcal for instance. They'll still have Rollins, Utley, Howard, re-sign Pence, Chooch. Gotta add a 3B and OF.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:07 AM ET
sunday was my 5 year anniversary on hockeybuzz...cheers
- vejim




I believe thats wood or silverware....either way congrats
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:08 AM ET
sunday was my 5 year anniversary on hockeybuzz...cheers
- vejim



salutations
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:09 AM ET
I believe thats wood or silverware....either way congrats
- aosplayo

a silver cup would be nice before I die....geez
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:10 AM ET
Am I crazy for wanting the Flyers to make an offer to Alex Semin?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:11 AM ET
a silver cup would be nice before I die....geez
- vejim



bad news, silver anniversary is 25 years. look for a cup in 2033.



Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:11 AM ET
Am I crazy for wanting the Flyers to make an offer to Alex Semin?
- NickTheKid87



a little. but so is brad.

i read he has a huge offer from the KHL that no NHL team is going to match. dunno if any of that is true.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:12 AM ET
Blanton's gone after this year too. Regardless, they aren't even close to not being able to afford players, they just act like they don't want to incur the luxury tax but I honestly think they are cool with resigning Cole to a big deal. Also, they don't need to add a stud bat but some scrappy ones. A guy like Rafael Furcal for instance. They'll still have Rollins, Utley, Howard, re-sign Pence, Chooch. Gotta add a 3B and OF.
- NickTheKid87


Will see but they have a lot of money tied up into Howard, Utley, Rollins, Papelbon, Lee, Halladay, Pence. I think the Phillies wont give Hamels what he wants which is why hes not signed yet. I'm expecting him to be traded and if they can clear some money they will try to resign him during free agency.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:12 AM ET
Am I crazy for wanting the Flyers to make an offer to Alex Semin?
- NickTheKid87

yes
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:12 AM ET
Am I crazy for wanting the Flyers to make an offer to Alex Semin?
- NickTheKid87


Some would say "yes" but I think it depends on years and money.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:14 AM ET
Will see but they have a lot of money tied up into Howard, Utley, Rollins, Papelbon, Lee, Halladay, Pence. I think the Phillies wont give Hamels what he wants which is why hes not signed yet. I'm expecting him to be traded and if they can clear some money they will try to resign him during free agency.
- stveshdy


I'd rather trade Lee and re-sign Hamels than trade/not re-sign Hamels.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:15 AM ET
Some would say "yes" but I think it depends on years and money.
- stveshdy


Let's say 2-4 years $5-5.5 million per year.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:16 AM ET
I'd rather trade Lee and re-sign Hamels than trade/not re-sign Hamels.
- NickTheKid87


That makes sense. Hes younger and probably their best pitcher right now.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:16 AM ET
$5.5 easy.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:18 AM ET
Let's say 2-4 years $5-5.5 million per year.
- NickTheKid87


I would be willing to sign him for two years at that price. Many people think Semin is a dog and bad for the team but he is very talented. I thought he played much better when Hunter took over as coach.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:18 AM ET
The more likely scenario...he goes to a lesser club, puts up lesser numbers and people will say, "i told you so".
- bradleyc4


TB is a pretty good offensive team. If Carle sees plenty of icetime with Stamkos and St. Louis, his puck moving skills could translate to a good number of assists.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:20 AM ET
I would be willing to sign him for two years at that price. Many people think Semin is a dog and bad for the team but he is very talented. I thought he played much better when Hunter took over as coach.
- stveshdy


As did I. I would be completely okay if they signed him for between $5-5.5 million. That way they'd get there scoring winger (and a better one than Bob Ryan) without having to move assets.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:21 AM ET
I like Schenn as a player.. but we traded a top six forward NOW, for a bottom pairing d-man with upside NOW. Like someone else said, neither have played a game for their new team, but I still think we didnt get enough.
- jak521



Schenn is 22 and has played a top 4 role in the NHL already. Schenn is as much of a to 4 defenseman as JVR is a top 6 forward now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:23 AM ET
Blanton's gone after this year too. Regardless, they aren't even close to not being able to afford players, they just act like they don't want to incur the luxury tax but I honestly think they are cool with resigning Cole to a big deal. Also, they don't need to add a stud bat but some scrappy ones. A guy like Rafael Furcal for instance. They'll still have Rollins, Utley, Howard, re-sign Pence, Chooch. Gotta add a 3B and OF.
- NickTheKid87



Rollins, Howard, and Utley are well past their prime. Chooch is 34 years old. Time to make some deals and get some youth in here. They should start by trading Cliff Lee, Polanco, and Victorino.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:25 AM ET
Rollins, Howard, and Utley are well past their prime. Chooch is 34 years old. Time to make some deals and get some youth in here. They should start by trading Cliff Lee, Polanco, and Victorino.
- MJL

Homer would have a field day with the phils
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:25 AM ET
Rollins, Howard, and Utley are well past their prime. Chooch is 34 years old. Time to make some deals and get some youth in here. They should start by trading Cliff Lee, Polanco, and Victorino.
- MJL


Cliff Lee will be the only one of those 3 that will actually get a decent return. You'd be lucky to get a B prospect for Polly and Vic.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
Rollins, Howard, and Utley are well past their prime. Chooch is 34 years old. Time to make some deals and get some youth in here. They should start by trading Cliff Lee, Polanco, and Victorino.
- MJL


No question about it. Time to reload and get what you can for these guys.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
Cliff Lee will be the only one of those 3 that will actually get a decent return. You'd be lucky to get a B prospect for Polly and Vic.
- NickTheKid87

trade Lee and Hamels...the baby aces are not babies anymore
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
Cliff Lee will be the only one of those 3 that will actually get a decent return. You'd be lucky to get a B prospect for Polly and Vic.
- NickTheKid87


Doesn't matter. What you gain is payroll. Time to move on.
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