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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
Actually you can, but the offer would have to be one that would give different compensatory picks.
- HonkFortheGoose


compensatory picks must be your own
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
nice...solidarity
- DoubleDown


casue he doesnt speak french?
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
what's the big deal about o'reilly?
- BarUpHockey19


He has silky mitts.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 19 @ 11:23 AM ET
Just terrible.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
because i never reed garth's, ummmmmmm, nonsense, i'm assuming that o'reilly gets an offer sheet from the sabres for a salary that's well over $8m per which represents four #1 compensatory draft picks?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
He has silky mitts.
- sambarugh


then i could cut though the jungle that is my legs
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Jul 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
please post Max Webster videos and stop with the Radar O'Reilly love
BarUpHockey19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ryan Miller retires to be an a, NY
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
He has silky mitts.
- sambarugh


so you would give up for first rounders for a 18 goal scorer(well garth said he would)
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
Just terrible.
- nfph


dude
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:25 AM ET
compensatory picks must be your own
- b0s0o1


Right, but if the first offer sheet would be compensated by 4 1sts, then you can't offer another offer sheet that would overlap any of those.

For example: A team may not have two different players sign offer sheets at the same time if the value of the offered contracts would involve any of the same draft picks as compensation. For example, if a restricted free agent accepts a contract with a yearly salary of at least $7,835,220, the team can only offer to other restricted free agents contracts less than $3,134,089 per year, since those would not require any first round pick as compensation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:26 AM ET
because i never reed garth's, ummmmmmm, nonsense, i'm assuming that o'reilly gets an offer sheet from the sabres for a salary that's well over $8m per which represents four #1 compensatory draft picks?
- b0s0o1



Yes, and he's not worth that much. Any offer in the next tier down would be matched anyway, so it's really not worth it.

I have a feeling O'Reilly will end up being like Dubinsky. A more than solid player in his own right, but will never end up being the world beater that certain people thought he would be.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 19 @ 11:27 AM ET
dude
- b0s0o1

DUUUUUDE.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:27 AM ET
Right, but if the first offer sheet would be compensated by 4 1sts, then you can't offer another offer sheet that would overlap any of those.

For example: A team may not have two different players sign offer sheets at the same time if the value of the offered contracts would involve any of the same draft picks as compensation. For example, if a restricted free agent accepts a contract with a yearly salary of at least $7,835,220, the team can only offer to other restricted free agents contracts less than $3,134,089 per year, since those would not require any first round pick as compensation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet

- HonkFortheGoose


yup, your are correct...but i wouldn't offersheet a player who's, in effect, a fourth-liner (using that salary)
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 19 @ 11:28 AM ET
casue he doesnt speak french?
- hubie


good enough casue as any
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:29 AM ET
Yes, and he's not worth that much. Any offer in the next tier down would be matched anyway, so it's really not worth it.

I have a feeling O'Reilly will end up being like Dubinsky. A more than solid player in his own right, but will never end up being the world beater that certain people thought he would be.

- buffalofan19


cisco summed it up nicely:


just terrible
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:29 AM ET
yup, your are correct...but i wouldn't offersheet a player who's, in effect, a fourth-liner (using that salary)
- b0s0o1


I wouldn't either. I bet some of this gets changed in the new CBA. With the way salaries have gone, I bet they change parts of this to reflect that.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:30 AM ET
so you would give up for first rounders for a 18 goal scorer(well garth said he would)
- BarUpHockey19


Only if a Poison cover band plays every time he scores.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:30 AM ET
DUUUUUDE.
- nfph


25th coming soon, eh?
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:31 AM ET
DUUUUUDE.
- nfph


Sweet! What does mine say?!
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:32 AM ET
cisco summed it up nicely:


just terrible

- b0s0o1



Career high of 55 points in 81 games? Has Ville Leino taught us nothing?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:32 AM ET
I wouldn't either. I bet some of this gets changed in the new CBA. With the way salaries have gone, I bet they change parts of this to reflect that.
- HonkFortheGoose


the contract for weber, as astonishing as it might look right now, does allow them to match and trade a year from now...

$14m in the first year is a boatload to eat, but it's far less than the $26m was that was rumored earlier...

if i red things correctly
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:32 AM ET
dude
- b0s0o1

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:33 AM ET
Career high of 55 points in 81 games? Has Ville Leino taught us nothing?
- buffalofan19


don't get me wrong, i really like o'reilly and the way he approaches the game...but any thoughts of offersheeting him at that price is...well...



just terrible
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:33 AM ET
I wouldn't either. I bet some of this gets changed in the new CBA. With the way salaries have gone, I bet they change parts of this to reflect that.
- HonkFortheGoose



It will change a little, but I doubt that much. The contracts still aren't anywhere near as bad as they were pre-lockout. Right now, only the players considered "elite" are getting these kinds of deals. When we start getting back to Bobby Holik type contracts, then there will be a bigger stink made of things.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:34 AM ET
the contract for weber, as astonishing as it might look right now, does allow them to match and trade a year from now...

$14m in the first year is a boatload to eat, but it's far less than the $26m was that was rumored earlier...

if i red things correctly

- b0s0o1

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