WEll the kings didn't trade Dustin Brown or Anze Kopitar to get Mike Richards or Jeff Carter...

There are certain players that you just do not trade because they play such a vital role.. you trade others in order to add to the group...

You trade a Simmonds, Voracek, and Schenn... You trade a D-man.

We will trade a Stafford or a Leo/Sekera..

If you ask me.. you trade Pommer AND Sekera to get Ryan.. we got worse. Pommer and Ryan are a wash of eachother and that is being nice!
- JVince11

None of the bolded 3 have the trade value that the others had, not even close. To get a player of Bobby Ryan's caliber or better, you have to give up someone that "hurts" to lose. That would be a Grigorenko, Armia, McNabb or Girgensons (maybe Pysyk) if you're talking prospects. It would mean Myers, Ennis, Hodgson, Pominville, or Vanek if you are talking roster players.

If the goal is to upgrade at wing, and the price is a roster player instead of a prospect, do you just stand pat? I can't think of a team that won a cup that way.
- buffalofan19

No, but I personally don't think that Ryan is more than a slight upgrade, and Pominville has proven that he can produce even with a significant lack of talent around him. I think there is a risk that Ryan won't produce as well, since he'd be getting a downgrade in teammates. It's not an easy call, but you also have to take into consideration some other changes that are happening to the team, so I don't think as an organization, they're standing pat. In this situation though, I would stick with Pominville.

My goal, if I were Darcy, would be to try to add that top 6 forward without losing one, and if I had to lose one, I wouldn't want it to be the captain/most recent best player.

Interesting.

What about league wide?

Goose, feel free to weigh in too.
- sambarugh

all tiem ken daneko

No player on this team is untouchable IMO.
- dadeadhead

They shouldn't be, but I have a feeling some are, unfortunately.

I would say teh teams that hit more tend to win more

would you rather him .......wait cant say that
- hubie

Vancouver isn't exactly hitting everything that moves and they won the President's Trophy.....

Vancouver isn't exactly hitting everything that moves and they won the President's Trophy.....
- HonkFortheGoose

r you comparing skill levels

No player on this team is untouchable IMO.
- dadeadhead

I agree, I think Myers is the closest to untouchable but he isn't.

Interesting.

What about league wide?

Goose, feel free to weigh in too.
- sambarugh

league wide? not too many options... for me probably bobby ryan. not why i would want him on this team tho of course.

and i hate tons of women are like omg sidney crosby is so hot. not at all.

league wide? not too many options... for me probably bobby ryan. since we are on the subject bobby ryan is quite attractive. not why i would want him on this team tho of course.

and i hate tons of women are like omg sidney crosby is so hot. not at all.
- LizzyJo

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- hubie

ov?
- hubie

god no

i thought this blog had some substance to it. i was wrong

- HonkFortheGoose

this x1000000

None of the bolded 3 have the trade value that the others had, not even close. To get a player of Bobby Ryan's caliber or better, you have to give up someone that "hurts" to lose. That would be a Grigorenko, Armia, McNabb or Girgensons (maybe Pysyk) if you're talking prospects. It would mean Myers, Ennis, Hodgson, Pominville, or Vanek if you are talking roster players.
- buffalofan19

Grigs, Armia, Girgensons, Pommer, Myers, Ehrhoff, and Miller are the people that I would NOT trade in any deal..

Darcy has expanded to that list with Hodgson and Ennis.

You can argue all you want on here.. but its not gonna change Darcy's mind set already in place..

Vanek, Stafford, McNabb, Pysyk, Leo, Sekera, Gerbe, Leino, Adam, Catenacci, Sundher, Leduc

are in play I bet...

i thought this blog had some substance to it. i was wrong
- Mymusical00

welcome to a garth blog

r you comparing skill levels
- hubie

You said teams that hit more win more, well Vancouver is probably in the bottom 3rd of the league in terms of hitting and they won the President's Trophy 2 years in a row and made it to the SCF last year. So your theory isn't exactly accurate.

league wide? not too many options... for me probably bobby ryan. not why i would want him on this team tho of course.

and i hate tons of women are like omg sidney crosby is so hot. not at all.
- LizzyJo

No love for Patrick Sharp?

What I'm arguing is that Pominville is far from untouchable. He doesn't need to be dealt, but if the Sabres want to win the Cup he can't be your teams best winger/forward. Others seem to have put him on a pedestal that's just homer silliness.
- GilPerreault

Pomivilles a difference maker thats a fact.Can he lead this team on his own ? No .Few players if any can but all and all hes worth his weight in gold for what he does . I place him above Vanek in his worth to this team and so our number one forward in my opinion.

You said teams that hit more win more, well Vancouver is probably in the bottom 3rd of the league in terms of hitting and they won the President's Trophy 2 years in a row and made it to the SCF last year. So your theory isn't exactly accurate.
- HonkFortheGoose

Would you say they had the cup in view?

Grigs, Armia, Girgensons, Pommer, Myers, Ehrhoff, and Miller are the people that I would NOT trade in any deal..

Darcy has expanded to that list with Hodgson and Ennis.

You can argue all you want on here.. but its not gonna change Darcy's mind set already in place..

Vanek, Stafford, McNabb, Pysyk, Leo, Sekera, Gerbe, Leino, Adam, Catenacci, Sundher, Leduc

are in play I bet...
- JVince11

I'm not saying they should trade those players, just that is what other teams are going to want. Drew Stafford is not going to get you Bobby Ryan, or anyone else of equal or better caliber unless the others I mentioned are involved. No GM would do that, unless they're intentionally trying to be fired, and sabotage the team first.

welcome to a garth blog
- hubie

shouldve known

You said teams that hit more win more, well Vancouver is probably in the bottom 3rd of the league in terms of hitting and they won the President's Trophy 2 years in a row and made it to the SCF last year. So your theory isn't exactly accurate.
- HonkFortheGoose

Chicago doesn't exactly kill people either.. they have a few d-men.. but I don't think they exactly have it in their forwards group..


Detroit aren't exactly big hitters either...

NJD aren't big hitters...

NYR can be at times..

You said teams that hit more win more, well Vancouver is probably in the bottom 3rd of the league in terms of hitting and they won the President's Trophy 2 years in a row and made it to the SCF last year. So your theory isn't exactly accurate.
- HonkFortheGoose

well I know another team who had a presidents trophy and didnt win a cup

- HonkFortheGoose

Would you say they had the cup in view?
- BuffaJoe

They've viewed the other team skate around with it 3 times.