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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 13 @ 11:34 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Boucher Is $50K Insurance Policy; Laughton
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 13 @ 11:38 PM ET
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 13 @ 11:46 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Boucher Is $50K Insurance Policy; Laughton
- bmeltzer


Good stuff, Bill.

With the abolition of re-entry waivers, the Flyers can utilize Boucher in case of injury without having to sweat the possibility of getting held up.

I wonder if the PA will grieve the cases of Gomez and Redden being told to stay home by the Habs and Rangers.

As for Laughton, if he returns to Oshawa, he'll likely be getting even more minutes if Boone Jenner ends up in Columbus, rather than staying in the OHL. I'd really hate to burn a year off Laughton's ELC for a 48 game season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 13 @ 11:55 PM ET
http://thehockeyguys.net/...need-not-future-planning/

This prtty much sums up my views on Laughton sticking past 5 games
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jan 13 @ 11:57 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Boucher Is $50K Insurance Policy; Laughton
- bmeltzer

thank you for your guidance as we wade through the murky waters of a post lockout NHL
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 12:00 AM ET
Bill, something about this deal seems fishy to me. I can understand Carolina wanting to dump Boosh ...but why just throw in Alt when they are getting next to nothing in return? Is he that much of a project? From the sounds of it he sure sounds like he should have gone in the later rounds. Was he a stretch to take in the second round? Or was there a good reason he went that early?

I ask because I know the Canes GM has a rep of driving a hard bargin... but coming out of this with a 2nd round D prospect just seems totally out of left field.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 14 @ 12:16 AM ET
Bill, something about this deal seems fishy to me. I can understand Carolina wanting to dump Boosh ...but why just throw in Alt when they are getting next to nothing in return? Is he that much of a project? From the sounds of it he sure sounds like he should have gone in the later rounds. Was he a stretch to take in the second round? Or was there a good reason he went that early?

I ask because I know the Canes GM has a rep of driving a hard bargin... but coming out of this with a 2nd round D prospect just seems totally out of left field.

- hereticpride


The Flyers did the 'Canes a favor in taking Boucher off their roster/cap. Peters had passed him and Dan Ellis comes in more cheaply. In fact, Ellis falls below the threshold for counting against the cap for the Canes, which makes me think that Ellis is going to fill the role in Carolina that Boucher is filling here, namely veteran AHL starter that can be recalled in case of emergency/injury.

The thing with Alt is, he's a long term project. His size and skating ability are very appealing, but he's struggled offensively this year in college. That said, he's not under contract and the Flyers fill a need in Boucher in exchange for a player that is currently loaned to an ECHL team and had no future here.
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

Jan 14 @ 12:31 AM ET
Bill, something about this deal seems fishy to me. I can understand Carolina wanting to dump Boosh ...but why just throw in Alt when they are getting next to nothing in return? Is he that much of a project? From the sounds of it he sure sounds like he should have gone in the later rounds. Was he a stretch to take in the second round? Or was there a good reason he went that early?

I ask because I know the Canes GM has a rep of driving a hard bargin... but coming out of this with a 2nd round D prospect just seems totally out of left field.

- hereticpride


We did Carolina a solid by taking an injured goalie and his salary....they had to sweeten the pot....we could have signed the goalie Carolina did for 300k less for our 3 string goalie.....Carolina needed to have a backup healthy and ready to play....I don't think boosh can be counted on right away and for big mins if ward goes down. Throw in a prospect that they haven't signed yet....life moves on.......maybe that's your answer, maybe he didn't want to sign in Carolina ..... So they moved him.....but I'm guessing it was depth and money.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 14 @ 6:36 AM ET
We did Carolina a solid by taking an injured goalie and his salary....they had to sweeten the pot....we could have signed the goalie Carolina did for 300k less for our 3 string goalie.....Carolina needed to have a backup healthy and ready to play....I don't think boosh can be counted on right away and for big mins if ward goes down. Throw in a prospect that they haven't signed yet....life moves on.......maybe that's your answer, maybe he didn't want to sign in Carolina ..... So they moved him.....but I'm guessing it was depth and money.
- huks99


Exactly right.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 14 @ 7:27 AM ET
Gotta give the Flyers credit.. they are very loyal to players that are loyal to them. You don't see every team in the NHL doing what we do for players that once played for us.

Should be a fun year... i'm already liking the shortened season.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 7:54 AM ET
I believe Boucher will have to clear Waivers to be sent to the Phantoms. But that shouldn't be an issue.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 7:58 AM ET
Gotta give the Flyers credit.. they are very loyal to players that are loyal to them. You don't see every team in the NHL doing what we do for players that once played for us.

Should be a fun year... i'm already liking the shortened season.

- Flyersgod


I think familiarity of the player, and knowing what kind of teammate he is, had something to do with it. But it filled a need in the Organization, or they wouldn't have traded for him just out of loyalty.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 14 @ 8:22 AM ET
I believe Boucher will have to clear Waivers to be sent to the Phantoms. But that shouldn't be an issue.
- MJL


Correct, waivers going down, but no re-entry waivers.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jan 14 @ 8:44 AM ET
I have a feeling Shelley wont be with the big club this year...... booooooooo

I know must of you think nothing of him but I like him

I guess Ill have to pick up a Zac Rinaldo jersey!!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 14 @ 8:54 AM ET
Waiting for my kid to be born right now.... Can't believe I'm going to be watching the season opener with my kid!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 8:55 AM ET
I have a feeling Shelley wont be with the big club this year...... booooooooo

I know must of you think nothing of him but I like him

I guess Ill have to pick up a Zac Rinaldo jersey!!

- Flyers_1488


I think there is a good chance he stays with the team. We'll see.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jan 14 @ 8:56 AM ET
Waiting for my kid to be born right now.... Can't believe I'm going to be watching the season opener with my kid!
- Philly1980



Congrats and it's amazing to have a kid - I have 2 and I'm a diffent dude now - I look at life diffent and how I do things bc everything is for them and their mother



Go FLYERS
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jan 14 @ 8:57 AM ET
I think there is a good chance he stays with the team. We'll see.
- MJL



Bc of the cap hit? I think its 1.1
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 14 @ 8:58 AM ET
Congrats and it's amazing to have a kid - I have 2 and I'm a diffent dude now - I look at life diffent and how I do things bc everything is for them and their mother



Go FLYERS

- Flyers_1488

Thanks man..already online ordering gear

Screw the boycott!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:01 AM ET
Bc of the cap hit? I think its 1.1
- Flyers_1488


The cap hit really isn't an issue. It would cost the Flyers 200K on the Cap, to waive him and send him to the Phantoms. I just get the feeling that they are going to keep him with the Flyers.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jan 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
Thanks man..already online ordering gear

Screw the boycott!

- Philly1980



Yeah dude I hear you.... I just ordered my kids/wife some gear yesterday

boycott nothing lol
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Jan 14 @ 9:13 AM ET
The cap hit really isn't an issue. It would cost the Flyers 200K on the Cap, to waive him and send him to the Phantoms. I just get the feeling that they are going to keep him with the Flyers.
- MJL



Why is that??

I hope your right
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:24 AM ET
Why is that??

I hope your right

- Flyers_1488


I don\'t know what question you\'re asking here. I have no information as to what the team is going to do with Shelley. I could easily be wrong. I just get the feeling he stays with the big club.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
Waiting for my kid to be born right now.... Can\'t believe I\'m going to be watching the season opener with my kid!
- Philly1980


Had my first in feb. Other than the lack of sleep and no longer be able to ignore my wife its been great. Life changing for sure.

Hopefully the birth goes well!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:29 AM ET
Why is that??

I hope your right

- Flyers_1488

They\'ve kept him on the roster despite the cap hit the past two years. That probably doesn\'t change, unless an immediate need for his cap space arises.
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