Ryan Garner: Down With Dubnyk: Oilers Need A Goaltender

I agree mostly, but i do feel that if the teams D keeps improving, Dubey can regain his confidence and again start pushing towards that .918 average he had previous 4 years. But another way to do that might be to bring in some serious competition for him in net.. i would wait till trade deadline, last couple years, goalie trades have been pretty cheap for the team acquiring the goaltender, and that could happen again close to trade deadline if we are not desperate now, we could get a good deal on someone!

True, but we've already seen how demoralizing it can be to the team when they're facing a hot goaltender and can't rely on Dubnyk to make saves to keep them in the game. I've seen enough in his 10 starts to turn the page. He nearly blew the game against Florida, and couldn't come up with the big save against Tampa Bay.

......I'm sooooooo tired of watching you guys suck so bad. It's not good for hockey in Canada. How many top 10 picks do you need to compete?!?!?......it's not even fun to make fun of you anymore......ridiculous.

A trade for Miller seems like a real option. There will be other before the season ends, but maybe not before the Oiler's season ends.

......I'm sooooooo tired of watching you guys suck so bad. It's not good for hockey in Canada. How many top 10 picks do you need to compete?!?!?......it's not even fun to make fun of you anymore......ridiculous.
- Termin8

It really isn't fun to make fun of them anymore, its just painful and sad

A trade for Miller seems like a real option. There will be other before the season ends, but maybe not before the Oiler's season ends.
- micah555

Miller has Edm on his no trade list and has stated he doesn't want to play for a Canadian team.

I think the Ducks would be the best team to call, loaded with goalie prospects and have a 1a 1b goaltender tandem.

Heck what about some wild card teams like Min or TBL.

Also statistically is it possible to save your season with the hole you are in? The top 7 teams in the NHL are all in the west, so edm would have to magically go like .700 or something crazy just to crack a playoff spot.

Just bad news bears all over.

Can the same determinable factors be applied to Bachman and Labarbera? If so, wouldn't the team defence be to blame?

Miller's not coming as he has edmonton on his list of teams he won't accept a trade to and Reimer is on fire this year.

Edmonton should be looking at Ottawa and taking action quick before Lehner usurps Anderson for the starting job. Lehner is the guy Edmonton needs.

Also Anaheim is another place Edmonton should be shopping. They have 4 possible NHL starters in their system. Hiller, Fasth, Andersen, and John Gibson.

Can the same determinable factors be applied to Bachman and Labarbera? If so, wouldn't the team defence be to blame?

Miller's not coming as he has edmonton on his list of teams he won't accept a trade to and Reimer is on fire this year.

Edmonton should be looking at Ottawa and taking action quick before Lehner usurps Anderson for the starting job. Lehner is the guy Edmonton needs.

Also Anaheim is another place Edmonton should be shopping. They have 4 possible NHL starters in their system. Hiller, Fasth, Andersen, and John Gibson.
- kelholtz

Can't see Ottawa trading Lehner. Anderson maybe with their cheap owner but Murray would likely want to wait until the summer for that. They probably would have to pay a good price to get Anderson right now and not give the Sens more salary either.

Ryan Garner: Down With Dubnyk: Oilers Need A Goaltender
- Ryan Garner

I thought Toronto may have been a suitable trading partner since Edmonton is in need of a goalie, and at this point Toronto is in need of a center. But the more I thought about it, I'm not sure Nonis would be willing to give up Reimer. At this point, the 1A/1B goalie situation is really working for these guys. It seems like their pushing each other pretty good (Bernier/Reimer). The only scenario I could see here is a a really good package deal that addresses both teams needs.

To Edmonton -

Reimer
Liles
McKegg

To Toronto -

Gagner
Larsen
3rd rounder

Just tossing that out there. I'm not even sure if I like that deal. But it definitely address both teams needs.

I like Dubnyk despite how much he sucks this season. He rocked last year, so the expectation were high, and he has failed to live up to them.
I am honestly not trying to defend him just offering up a minor point, he has always been the back up or had a 'strong' competition to push him to fight for his minutes. He doesn't have competition this year.
The other two goalies in the oilers system are not doing much if any better in net.
All three of our goalies are sucking at the moment so maybe it has something to do with our subpar defence rather than an individual goaltender... Or maybe all three suck who knows.
At this point I am in favour or of any trade/move/firing that gets the oilers wining at something other than the draft. It's embarrassing being an oiler fan these days.

I thought Toronto may have been a suitable trading partner since Edmonton is in need of a goalie, and at this point Toronto is in need of a center. But the more I thought about it, I'm not sure Nonis would be willing to give up Reimer. At this point, the 1A/1B goalie situation is really working for these guys. It seems like their pushing each other pretty good (Bernier/Reimer). The only scenario I could see here is a a really good package deal that addresses both teams needs.

To Edmonton -

Reimer
Liles
McKegg

To Toronto -

Gagner
Larsen
3rd rounder

Just tossing that out there. I'm not even sure if I like that deal. But it definitely address both teams needs.
- BruHAWK

Accepted. No backsies.

Ryan Garner: Down With Dubnyk: Oilers Need A Goaltender
- Ryan Garner

I'm with you guys.

I'd add in one of the Anaheim goalies.

A trade for Miller seems like a real option. There will be other before the season ends, but maybe not before the Oiler's season ends.
- micah555

Being that we likely need about 40 wins in the next 65 games to even sniff the playoffs, I'd say the year is done now.

...but don't forget about Dubnyk's great save percentage last year!!!! haha

He is not a #1 NHL goaltender. This is indeed a very frustrating situation. Whatever happened with Olivier Roy? Wasn't he in the World Juniors? I am not impressed at all at the lack of goaltender depth on this team? Is it bad luck or just horrible drafting?

...but don't forget about Dubnyk's great save percentage last year!!!! haha

He is not a #1 NHL goaltender. This is indeed a very frustrating situation. Whatever happened with Olivier Roy? Wasn't he in the World Juniors? I am not impressed at all at the lack of goaltender depth on this team? Is it bad luck or just horrible drafting?
- JLO961

Well lets get something straight about Dubnyk: last year he was giving borderline #1 goaltender numbers, now he's not giving NHL goaltender numbers. If he's even at .900 or .905 we're in much better shape. Many were against him, but no one could have really predicted this.

Can't see Ottawa trading Lehner. Anderson maybe with their cheap owner but Murray would likely want to wait until the summer for that. They probably would have to pay a good price to get Anderson right now and not give the Sens more salary either.
- dcz28

The only way Anaheim or Ottawa trades a goalie is if we give them something that could help with their playoff runs. Anaheim is the team that drafted Smid, and Bryan Murray is the GM that drafted him. Neither D Core is incredibly deep to be honest.

deal surrounding those players?

Miller has Edm on his no trade list and has stated he doesn't want to play for a Canadian team.

I think the Ducks would be the best team to call, loaded with goalie prospects and have a 1a 1b goaltender tandem.

Heck what about some wild card teams like Min or TBL.

Also statistically is it possible to save your season with the hole you are in? The top 7 teams in the NHL are all in the west, so edm would have to magically go like .700 or something crazy just to crack a playoff spot.

Just bad news bears all over.
- Meeqsb

I think the "1a/1b tandem" title will be lifted shortly

Miller has Edm on his no trade list and has stated he doesn't want to play for a Canadian team.

I think the Ducks would be the best team to call, loaded with goalie prospects and have a 1a 1b goaltender tandem.

Heck what about some wild card teams like Min or TBL.

Also statistically is it possible to save your season with the hole you are in? The top 7 teams in the NHL are all in the west, so edm would have to magically go like .700 or something crazy just to crack a playoff spot.

Just bad news bears all over.
- Meeqsb

It's all but impossible to make the playoffs at this point. But I think the name of the game needs to be to climb as high as possible. The season can still be 'saved' if we go on a tear for the sake of going on a tear.

Marty has been looking like he could play another 20 years these last few games maybe you guys could make up a package better then the one at the draft for Schneider

Despite Dubnyk, and to a slightly lesser point Labs playing some of the more dreadful goaltending this league has seen this side of Toskaloss circa his Toronto days or Dan Cloutier after Lidstrom broke his brain from centre ice. The Oilers team defense is pathetic. From forwards to defense, it's brutal. Having a few really good specialists isn't enough (Gordon, maybe even throw in Petry he's been good on both sides of the puck). How the heck can they fix this? Not sure, but Tampa was in a bit of a similar state and they've pulled it around with a massive youth injection of various levels of skill and playstyle and a new system.

Despite Dubnyk, and to a slightly lesser point Labs playing some of the more dreadful goaltending this league has seen this side of Toskaloss circa his Toronto days or Dan Cloutier after Lidstrom broke his brain from centre ice. The Oilers team defense is pathetic. From forwards to defense, it's brutal. Having a few really good specialists isn't enough (Gordon, maybe even throw in Petry he's been good on both sides of the puck). How the heck can they fix this? Not sure, but Tampa was in a bit of a similar state and they've pulled it around with a massive youth injection of various levels of skill and playstyle and a new system.
- AdamFrench

As per the discussion the other day, hopefully MacT is scouring for a couple of bottom 6ers who can fit here.

Maybe a change of scenery trade would work. Like maybe Dubnyk for Markstrom.

As per the discussion the other day, hopefully MacT is scouring for a couple of bottom 6ers who can fit here.
- Morris

Maybe take a run at Cluster(frank)? He seems to be in the doghouse on the Islanders and semi-redundant with Matt Martin there.

Seriously guys...you should relly not go to Miller. He's not the goalie he used to. HE's playing good right now but only because the Olympics are coming. Your defence is ok to mediocre...same as Buff. He will become desperate as he usually is with buff pretty quickly. Hiller..he's ok but hey your call.

You need top notch goalie to bail you out regularly to allow you to develop. Ottawa had Anderson to help us. We still 1st in the league for most shot on goal allowed on our goalies and yet we win games and keep it close. We are never out of the game. Why? Because Andy is the best goalie in the league right now.

You should really stop wasting time shopping for ok goalie. Get the best and pay the price; or keep sinking.

Good luck