Jeremy Laura
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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Not feeling It, sorry. - Tee56
No worries. I like the deal, and it made sense to knock this out first. Bert and Mo are on deck. 15 goals and 17 apples on a team that struggled to score. Definitely and upgrade from the departed |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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It's about what I expected. A 2 year deal. Yzerman is basically saying show me more if you want a longer deal. Fabbri came here and produced right away. He earned his contract. Which is more than I can say for most Red Wings players. I don't like how he gave up on plays after he turned the puck over. That's a big red flag for me. But we'll see. He might score 20 goals next year. I'm fine with that. |
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HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Gwinn, MI Joined: 01.26.2020
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I get a sense that Fabri may be trade bait for a #2C
Maybe him for Tyler Johnson |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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I get a sense that Fabri may be trade bait for a #2C
Maybe him for Tyler Johnson - HenryHockey
There's no need to do this. Tampa wants to cut salary. We already discussed this previously. We can keep Fabbri and trade for Johnson. |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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I get a sense that Fabri may be trade bait for a #2C
Maybe him for Tyler Johnson - HenryHockey
Probably not. Yzerman doesn’t sign and flip very often. Fabbri won’t get Johnson |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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It's about what I expected. A 2 year deal. Yzerman is basically saying show me more if you want a longer deal. Fabbri came here and produced right away. He earned his contract. Which is more than I can say for most Red Wings players. I don't like how he gave up on plays after he turned the puck over. That's a big red flag for me. But we'll see. He might score 20 goals next year. I'm fine with that. - gergeswillems
I agree with you. He’s making less than Abdelkader, helm, Nielsen and Filppula. Those 4 COMBINED scored 20 goals. I’m good with the deal |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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There's no need to do this. Tampa wants to cut salary. We already discussed this previously. We can keep Fabbri and trade for Johnson. - gergeswillems
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Bartacus
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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Low risk, pays Fabbri well, but likely only to play on a team going nowhere in those 2 seasons. I myself would have probably qualified him before going close to 3 - with low pay RFAs on an awful team in a flat cap year, there's very little risk of offer sheets, and if one came through it'd likely have been sub pick compensation, making it an easy cheap match for Det for one year, instead of moderate cost for 2. Would rather see Yzerman weaponize cap space and take advantage of ceiling teams instead of making this move now. |
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Sven22
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI Joined: 12.24.2007
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If Detroit were a cap team looking to compete for a Cup within the next couple of years I would probably complain that the AAV is a little high.
But they aren't, so I won't.
Like I said, AAV is a little high but the team has the space, the term is good, will still be an RFA on expiry. No real complaints I guess. On the off-chance he emerges as a late-blooming legit top-sixer, it's good value. If he continues to be the one-dimensional third liner he currently is, the contract is still pretty tradable and could get us something decent at one of the next two deadlines. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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If Detroit were a cap team looking to compete for a Cup within the next couple of years I would probably complain that the AAV is a little high.
But they aren't, so I won't.
Like I said, AAV is a little high but the team has the space, the term is good, will still be an RFA on expiry. No real complaints I guess. On the off-chance he emerges as a late-blooming legit top-sixer, it's good value. If he continues to be the one-dimensional third liner he currently is, the contract is still pretty tradable and could get us something decent at one of the next two deadlines. - Sven22
Fabbri could be a potential top 6 guy or he could be a stop gap winger who buys us time until the team is relevant again. It's 2 years. Perfect. |
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gergeswillems
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Low risk, pays Fabbri well, but likely only to play on a team going nowhere in those 2 seasons. I myself would have probably qualified him before going close to 3 - with low pay RFAs on an awful team in a flat cap year, there's very little risk of offer sheets, and if one came through it'd likely have been sub pick compensation, making it an easy cheap match for Det for one year, instead of moderate cost for 2. Would rather see Yzerman weaponize cap space and take advantage of ceiling teams instead of making this move now. - Bartacus
This is only the beginning. Yzerman will be very active this off season. Lots of cap space to leverage cap teams. There's nothing wrong with making this move now. None. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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If Detroit were a cap team looking to compete for a Cup within the next couple of years I would probably complain that the AAV is a little high.
But they aren't, so I won't.
Like I said, AAV is a little high but the team has the space, the term is good, will still be an RFA on expiry. No real complaints I guess. On the off-chance he emerges as a late-blooming legit top-sixer, it's good value. If he continues to be the one-dimensional third liner he currently is, the contract is still pretty tradable and could get us something decent at one of the next two deadlines. - Sven22
EH had projected 2 x 2.5m so it’s pretty much in line with his value. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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rest of the RFAs to sign or not
Mantha-yes
Bertuzzi-yes
Bowey-no
Perlini-no
Erne-no
Ehn-no
Timashov-yes |
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Sven22
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI Joined: 12.24.2007
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EH had projected 2 x 2.5m so it’s pretty much in line with his value. - Feds91Stammer
Yeah, I mean the average NHL salary is like $2.75m and honestly Fabbri is probably a slightly below average NHLer in the grand scheme of things (even though that makes him one of the best Red Wings).
Probably $2.25m would have been "perfect" in my estimation, but I'm not going to cry over ~$500-700k per year on this team. Plus if anybody is going to get a little overpaid I'm glad it's someone with Fabbri's dedication and attitude.
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Sven22
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI Joined: 12.24.2007
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Fabbri could be a potential top 6 guy or he could be a stop gap winger who buys us time until the team is relevant again. It's 2 years. Perfect. - gergeswillems
I essentially agree with this, although I might give him less of a chance of being that legit top 6 guy than perhaps you would. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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rest of the RFAs to sign or not
Mantha-yes
Bertuzzi-yes
Bowey-no
Perlini-no
Erne-no
Ehn-no
Timashov-yes - wingz4life
Erne is Yzerman's guy so we know he'll be re-signed. Agree on Bowey and Perlini. I'd like to see what Timashov can do with regular minutes so he can stay. Ehn can disappear. Mantha and Bertuzzi yes of course. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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I essentially agree with this, although I might give him less of a chance of being that legit top 6 guy than perhaps you would. - Sven22
I'm cautiously optimistic. Top 6 on a bad team. Good team no way. Hence why I said "stop gap." |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Yeah, I mean the average NHL salary is like $2.75m and honestly Fabbri is probably a slightly below average NHLer in the grand scheme of things (even though that makes him one of the best Red Wings).
Probably $2.25m would have been "perfect" in my estimation, but I'm not going to cry over ~$500-700k per year on this team. Plus if anybody is going to get a little overpaid I'm glad it's someone with Fabbri's dedication and attitude. - Sven22
Agreed. He’s a 3rd line winger and it’s a short term deal so a few dollars too much doesn’t really matter. |
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Erne is Yzerman's guy so we know he'll be re-signed. Agree on Bowey and Perlini. I'd like to see what Timashov can do with regular minutes so he can stay. Ehn can disappear. Mantha and Bertuzzi yes of course. - gergeswillems
Erne is definitely not guaranteed to be re-signed. Yzerman has no problem moving on from guys. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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Erne is definitely not guaranteed to be re-signed. Yzerman has no problem moving on from guys. - Feds91Stammer
yes, yzerman showed he isnt with st.louis when he was in tampa. good change from the former GM.... |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Erne is definitely not guaranteed to be re-signed. Yzerman has no problem moving on from guys. - Feds91Stammer
I wouldn't bring him back. But I think he will be back. I saw nothing special from him. He's a big body. That's it. I hope I'm wrong. |
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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yes, yzerman showed he isnt with st.louis when he was in tampa. good change from the former GM.... - wingz4life
I lived in Tampa for 11 years and the lightning super fans hated Yzerman at first because he was willing to dump Conacher, and then MSL, and then Drouin. He has no problem getting rid of guys. |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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rest of the RFAs to sign or not
Mantha-yes
Bertuzzi-yes
Bowey-no
Perlini-no
Erne-no
Ehn-no
Timashov-yes - wingz4life
I like it. What do you like about Timashov? Just curious |
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