Matt Ross: Quick Hit: Contract Efficiency Rating, Rumor, Huby CGY Deal

Looking forward to see in Huberdeau on a line with Lindholm. I think Huberdeau is an upgrade over Gaudreau, he has size and not afraid to check. You guys will love Chucky.

Looking forward to see in Huberdeau on a line with Lindholm. I think Huberdeau is an upgrade over Gaudreau, he has size and not afraid to check. You guys will love Chucky.
- FlamesFan1230

I’m not super familiar with the Flames roster but I’m curious to see how Huby does for you guys.

Really looking forward to Tkachuk 👍

I’m not super familiar with the Flames roster but I’m curious to see how Huby does for you guys.

Really looking forward to Tkachuk 👍
- Matt Ross

If you aren't familiar, how do you think Tkachuk was the right direction? Don't get me wrong, he's a good player. He had chemistry with Gaudreau and Lindholm, but it was almost 2nd sense. Passes to a spot. Blind passes. Long bombs that Gaudreau had to catch up to or icings. He's got a good shot. A little bit of a showoff, but if you can do those shots, the goalie has no clue. The bad part is he can be lazy at times. Gives up on a play. Draws players in with his antics, but also takes more penalties than he used to.

I am sure he will entertain. Whether that is what you need remains to be seen.

I think it was a great trade for the Panthers and I would give the C to Tkachuk. He brings leadership whereas Barkov is soft-spoken and did not lead the team when they needed it most. What frustrated me about Huberdeau is he was not that fast, he didn't finish his checks and if he did they were soft. When he had a clear open shot at the net he wouldn't take it and would wait for other teammates to show up so he could try and pass it to them. He wasn't a physical player, but more of a finesse player who always tried to thread the needle pass while three defensemen were in his way. A lot of times they got picked off.
Weeger, on the other hand, made a ton of mistakes in last year's playoff and thought diking his hair up would improve his performance on the ice. Go figure that one out. I think both of these players have peaked and will not fit into the skunky beer face Sutter scheme of things. I hope they prove me wrong though.

I think it was a great trade for the Panthers and I would give the C to Tkachuk. He brings leadership whereas Barkov is soft-spoken and did not lead the team when they needed it most. What frustrated me about Huberdeau is he was not that fast, he didn't finish his checks and if he did they were soft. When he had a clear open shot at the net he wouldn't take it and would wait for other teammates to show up so he could try and pass it to them. He wasn't a physical player, but more of a finesse player who always tried to thread the needle pass while three defensemen were in his way. A lot of times they got picked off.
Weeger, on the other hand, made a ton of mistakes in last year's playoff and thought diking his hair up would improve his performance on the ice. Go figure that one out. I think both of these players have peaked and will not fit into the skunky beer face Sutter scheme of things. I hope they prove me wrong though.
- madhatter56

Huberdeau slow? You’re going to love fleet foot .Chucky.
Recent D rankings had Weegar 20th overall ,but let’s trust you to assess his performance.

If you aren't familiar, how do you think Tkachuk was the right direction? Don't get me wrong, he's a good player. He had chemistry with Gaudreau and Lindholm, but it was almost 2nd sense. Passes to a spot. Blind passes. Long bombs that Gaudreau had to catch up to or icings. He's got a good shot. A little bit of a showoff, but if you can do those shots, the goalie has no clue. The bad part is he can be lazy at times. Gives up on a play. Draws players in with his antics, but also takes more penalties than he used to.

I am sure he will entertain. Whether that is what you need remains to be seen.
- Traveldude

I’m familiar with Tkachuk’s game like most hockey fans in terms of having an eye on guys outside the market you watch: Highlights/clips/articles and catching occasional pieces of Flames games here and there. But I certainly don’t watch him night in/night out like you guys do.

Is he a perfect player? No. But neither is Huby. No one is. All I can say is that I like a lot of the elements I’ve seen from him (and his attitude) and am excited to see if he can help the Panthers.

It was time for a shake up to the core and we’re all hoping Tkachuk will help these guys get to that next gear.

The irony of the description laid out for Tkachuk in the original post is that I think you’ll see some of those traits are in Huby’s game as well: overpassing/blind passing, not shooting when the opportunity is there, questioning his compete at times, etc.

I know there’s a lot of “who won the trade” debate, but I think it’s more of a hockey trade where both teams benefit, as opposed to one side clearly winning out. At least it appears that way thus far without any games under their new team’s belts.

Looking forward to this season starting so we can see how this all shakes out!

Looking forward to see in Huberdeau on a line with Lindholm. I think Huberdeau is an upgrade over Gaudreau, he has size and not afraid to check. You guys will love Chucky.
- FlamesFan1230

Really Hubs is soft as butter.. Johnny has 4 less career points than Hubs in 61 less games played and basically has superior numbers to Hub in every single category lol. Yall are going to miss Johnny a lot more than you think. The amount of space he cleared for his line mates was huge. Hubs can not slice through defense and back them up the the way Johnny did.

Yes yes we all saw the rating that showed how good weegar was at denying zone entry. However the ones that do get into the zone, thats where the trouble lies

I would highly recommend the Panthers trade for Brady Tkachuk. Having two young American players that are pests and drive to the net would be a dynamo core team for years to come. Yes, other players may not like their aggressiveness, but that is the only way to go deep into the playoffs. Soft players that cannot take the physicalness of the playoffs soon exit. Even if I had to dump some salary to get Tkachuk, it would be well worth it. Next year when you dump dead salaries such as Yandle, Hornqvist, and Darling contracts you have room to sign experienced free agent defensemen. Sometimes you have to tear down to build back up. I'm sure the Tkachuk brothers would feed off each other.

Really Hubs is soft as butter.. Johnny has 4 less career points than Hubs in 61 less games played and basically has superior numbers to Hub in every single category lol. Yall are going to miss Johnny a lot more than you think. The amount of space he cleared for his line mates was huge. Hubs can not slice through defense and back them up the the way Johnny did.
- Leichs

Hubie won’t “slice through” the defense, but he can turn his back and protect the puck while he backs the Dman down and finds an open man to pass it to.

Yes yes we all saw the rating that showed how good weegar was at denying zone entry. However the ones that do get into the zone, thats where the trouble lies
- Shynes57

This is pretty damn accurate. A lot of people describing him as a shutdown D, which Weegar really isn’t, imo.
I remember Weegar shutting mackinnon down at the blue line every time he tried to skate into the zone around Weegar. It was probably his best ever game.

Goalie who was FL 6th round pick starting his college career at U New Hampshire.
https://www.yahoo.com/new...r-muszelik-104239746.html
The article says he was ranked 4th out of 40 US goalies before the draft.

I think it was a time for a change. This core wasn't getting it done. We had three years of Barkov, Huberdeau, and Ekblad and they never got us to the finals. When they laid down and died with Tampa, Zito could see the complacency. Zito's first year with the Panthers were more exciting when they lost to Tampa the year before last and everybody in the league was talking about it. This year not so much. The toughness and the edge had left the team. We barely got past Washington and four and out with Tampa. Partial blame to Brunnette and Barkov for not firing the team up. Maybe Quenneville did make a difference in this aspect.

Not afraid to check? You gotta be kidding me, right?

@madhat how many years was Mackinnon with COL before they won? we hear the same things in Calgary (though for some reason Backlund has immunity)

Huberdeau needs to step up in the playoffs, so does Tkachuk, maybe the trade will help with that. I always thought Calgary's line up was on the smaller side, then you watch grown men in the finals this year, so I like Huberdeau and Weegar right away.

And maybe the Flames don't need a #2C as much as another top defensemen - for the fact that we'd have to get through McDavid in the playoffs, I think that's the bet Treliving's making with this line up.. I'm content with the trade..

That statement doesn't make sense. First, Huberdeau or Tkachuk are not in the same league as a MacKinnon or a McDavid. If that were the case, I would have traded Huberdeau straight of for either one. That being said MacKinnon does seem to disappear during the playoffs. If it wasn't for Kadri coming back into the finals they might have lost to Tampa. Kadri gave them that physical edge and distracted opposing players. I look to see Colorado take a step back this coming year as they have lost both Kadri, Burakosky, and Kuemper. I don't think Georgiev has the durability to be a starting goaltender. He seems to be injury prone.

That statement doesn't make sense. First, Huberdeau or Tkachuk are not in the same league as a MacKinnon or a McDavid. If that were the case, I would have traded Huberdeau straight of for either one. That being said MacKinnon does seem to disappear during the playoffs. If it wasn't for Kadri coming back into the finals they might have lost to Tampa. Kadri gave them that physical edge and distracted opposing players. I look to see Colorado take a step back this coming year as they have lost both Kadri, Burakosky, and Kuemper. I don't think Georgiev has the durability to be a starting goaltender. He seems to be injury prone.
- madhatter56

Ummm…

In 70 playoff games, MacKinnon is 41-52-93.

Dunno if that can accurately be described as “disappearing”.

Ummm…

In 70 playoff games, MacKinnon is 41-52-93.

Dunno if that can accurately be described as “disappearing”.
- Wildschwein

I see Dave Lowry was hired as an assistant for the Kraken. When is Maurice going to name his assistants? Maybe the ghost and Mrs. Muir?

I see Dave Lowry was hired as an assistant for the Kraken. When is Maurice going to name his assistants? Maybe the ghost and Mrs. Muir?
- madhatter56

Sylvain Lefebvre, Myless Fee and Jamie Kompon. Ruutu and Tallas are staying with the team.