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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 16 @ 10:38 AM ET
Jan Levine: Vesey does it - his two goals/Chytil PPG help lead Rangers to 3-1 win Win streak hits five
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Dec 16 @ 10:42 AM ET
Love that south Philly accent post from the last blog.
You guys ever hear this?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
Jan Levine: Vesey does it - his two goals/Chytil PPG help lead Rangers to 3-1 win
Win streak hits five

- airjan23

From last thread, saw you address my good, bad & ugly. I'm too lazy to get it. So we're just not allowed to continue to harp on Trouba, and by relation Gallant because this is just the new norm for Trouba?

Ok then.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think when it comes to the powerplay, the formula that worked so well last year by basically using powerplay #1 exclusively has got to stop and the kids have to get that 2nd minute more often

the problem with this though is that Adam Fox not tired after only 1 minute and if it's Trouba they go out there with, he can't keep the puck in the offensive zone and that's mostly why powerplay 2 never gets a good chance in the first place

so if they can do some kind of hybrid where Fox has the energy to stay out there with PP2, I think thats best of both worlds

I think Fox is absolutely the best defenseman in the league at keeping the puck in the offensive zone
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
From last thread, saw you address my good, bad & ugly. I'm too lazy to get it. So we're just not allowed to continue to harp on Trouba, and by relation Gallant because this is just the new norm for Trouba?

Ok then.

- tomburton99

I didn't say don't harp on him, call him out when warranted. But the fanbase seems to be looking for every reason to criticize him, which has been easy based on his play
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 16 @ 11:02 AM ET
I think when it comes to the powerplay, the formula that worked so well last year by basically using powerplay #1 exclusively has got to stop and the kids have to get that 2nd minute more often

the problem with this though is that Adam Fox not tired after only 1 minute and if it's Trouba they go out there with, he can't keep the puck in the offensive zone and that's mostly why powerplay 2 never gets a good chance in the first place

so if they can do some kind of hybrid where Fox has the energy to stay out there with PP2, I think thats best of both worlds

I think Fox is absolutely the best defenseman in the league at keeping the puck in the offensive zone

- jimbro83

Good point Jimbo. Trouba has a harder shot so he generates more rebounds, when he gets it on net, which may be why he also is on. I wonder if Miller gets a shot late. While I would love Fox to stay on, also cognizant of not burning him out.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
I didn't say don't harp on him, call him out when warranted. But the fanbase seems to be looking for every reason to criticize him, which has been easy based on his play
- airjan23

When I got back I thought his two best games this year were vs Vegas in Vegas and against Colorado in Colorado. Since then he's regressed again. And he's out there far more often now when mistakes are made compared to 23, 55, 4 and 79.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Dec 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
The team did an incredible job holding off Toronto during the second when they spent that extended time in our zone.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
The team did an incredible job holding off Toronto during the second when they spent that extended time in our zone.
- Fenrir

Schneider with a three minute shift there
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
The team did an incredible job holding off Toronto during the second when they spent that extended time in our zone.
- Fenrir


Mitch Marner is just a marvelous player to watch, I give kudos to that kid
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
When I got back I thought his two best games this year were vs Vegas in Vegas and against Colorado in Colorado. Since then he's regressed again. And he's out there far more often now when mistakes are made compared to 23, 55, 4 and 79.
- tomburton99

Agreed. He has struggled, no question. Should get a game or two off to heal, if the injury is impacting him, but that seems unlikely to happen.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 16 @ 11:11 AM ET
I didn't say don't harp on him, call him out when warranted. But the fanbase seems to be looking for every reason to criticize him, which has been easy based on his play
- airjan23


As long as Trouba is getting 21+ minutes per game and playing like this I will not be able to control myself. His salary, captaincy, minutes/deployment make it difficult to ignore the bad because the bad is really that bad. With that being said, there are positives, of course (just not much from Trouba's corner). We have won 5 in a row, Shesty is on top of his game, the kids are at it again, Schneider's play, etc. Panarin is so close to getting some goals to go with his assists. I'm just not convinced, even with the 5 game streak, this is the best version of this team and there are several players, and one coach, who I think are the root cause for concern.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
As long as Trouba is getting 21+ minutes per game and playing like this I will not be able to control myself. His salary, captaincy, minutes/deployment make it difficult to ignore the bad because the bad is really that bad. With that being said, there are positives, of course (just not much from Trouba's corner). We have won 5 in a row, Shesty is on top of his game, the kids are at it again, Schneider's play, etc. Panarin is so close to getting some goals to go with his assists. I'm just not convinced, even with the 5 game streak, this is the best version of this team and there are several players, and one coach, who I think are the root cause for concern.
- picklerick


I dont think this is the final product we go into the month of March with by any means

I'm just not convinced it's gonna be a big guy like Kane or even Horvat

probably multiple additions like last deadline
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 16 @ 11:18 AM ET
I dont think this is the final product we go into the month of March with by any means

I'm just not convinced it's gonna be a big guy like Kane or even Horvat

probably multiple additions like last deadline

- jimbro83


the only spots open, for forwards, is top 6 RW and one bottom 6 spot maybe. I don't know if the same deadline strategy applies this time around. It might actually be that big splash addition + a Motte type (or just get Motte's ass back here). That top 6 RW spot also hinges on what our plan for Kravtsov is. He can't be here AND we add forwards unless we move out other top 9 forwards, which would be the kids as they are the only ones without NMC. That won't likely happen so, i dont know
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:20 AM ET
the only spots open, for forwards, is top 6 RW and one bottom 6 spot maybe. I don't know if the same deadline strategy applies this time around. It might actually be that big splash addition + a Motte type (or just get Motte's ass back here)
- picklerick


you know Motte has been actually really poopty for Ottawa since he started off like gangbusters
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 16 @ 11:22 AM ET
you know Motte has been actually really poopty for Ottawa since he started off like gangbusters
- jimbro83


That team is bad though. Also, just looking at his stats, it looks like he's getting more than 4th line minutes there.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:24 AM ET
That team is bad though. Also, just looking at his stats, it looks like he's getting more than 4th line minutes there.
- picklerick


I'm gonna guess that Ottawa will be sellers at deadline and I am sure they will deal him, I'd say its possible there's a reunion

they were everybody's darlings with their offfseason moves, although they've been winning of late
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 16 @ 11:25 AM ET
Schneider with a three minute shift there
- airjan23


2:50, let's not exaggerate.
Could not believe the strength and poise he showed to make that play and move the puck out of the zone after that stretch!! Oh, to be 21 again!!
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
2:50, let's not exaggerate.
Could not believe the strength and poise he showed to make that play and move the puck out of the zone after that stretch!! Oh, to be 21 again!!

- Tonybere

sorry, mea culpa
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 16 @ 11:41 AM ET
I dont think this is the final product we go into the month of March with by any means

I'm just not convinced it's gonna be a big guy like Kane or even Horvat

probably multiple additions like last deadline

- jimbro83

Same reason why I don't put full stock in the advanced metrics now, but happy with slight improvements. They will supplement to fill holes like last year, which is when they really coalesced and took off
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:43 AM ET
Same reason why I don't put full stock in the advanced metrics now, but happy with slight improvements. They will supplement to fill holes like last year, which is when they really coalesced and took off
- airjan23


once the Rangers start acting like a team that follows advanced metrics, perhaps I'll put stock in them, but if the Rangers don't seem to care about them I certainly don't
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
sorry, mea culpa
- airjan23


Only joking, Jan.
Was thrilled with Schneider's play last night. And still thinking about the one shift from the Colorado game where 79 and 4 were on together and completely blunted the attack of (I believe) the top line 2 on 2. Great things ahead!!
disorca
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.01.2015

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
exciting to see vesey turning into the new fast.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Dec 16 @ 12:14 PM ET
The Trouba issues will be less of an issue if the kid line starts putting up a point per game. Would be nice
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Dec 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
Good point Jimbo. Trouba has a harder shot so he generates more rebounds, when he gets it on net, which may be why he also is on. I wonder if Miller gets a shot late. While I would love Fox to stay on, also cognizant of not burning him out.
- airjan23



Nice write up Jan. You didn't really address the performance of Harpur though. This was a really nice debut game for him. Unexpectedly dropped into his first game at MSG wearing blue against one of the hottest teams in the NHL. I thought he did exceptionally well, given the circumstances. He didn't really look out of place ( for a 3rd pairing defender ) and he meshed well with Schneider...
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