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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 8 @ 11:52 AM ET
Eklund: Penguins and Canucks Talking Multi-player deal
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Nov 8 @ 11:54 AM ET
Sure retain a bit on Garland and Dubas will convince Carter to waive his NMC for Vancouver. Makes lots of sense for both sides...
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Nov 8 @ 12:14 PM ET
Vancouver leads the NHL with 54 goals. Conor Garland has scored ONE time, and that was a month ago. He's pretty useless. So what Vancouver wants for him is...cap space! Take him for free. We get $5M of cap space now that we can use either now, or at the deadline to improve our team that appears like a legit contender. The $5M of cap space for the next 2 years will come in handy to give Pettersson a raise.

But will wait to hear what you learn this afternoon.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Would be great if the Canucks had a consistent blogger to cover such things. Maybe you should read your email!
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Nov 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Vancouver leads the NHL with 54 goals. Conor Garland has scored ONE time, and that was a month ago. He's pretty useless. So what Vancouver wants for him is...cap space! Take him for free. We get $5M of cap space now that we can use either now, or at the deadline to improve our team that appears like a legit contender. The $5M of cap space for the next 2 years will come in handy to give Pettersson a raise.

But will wait to hear what you learn this afternoon.

- Cooleus


I like Garland as a player. He's not great by any means, and definitely on a cold steak, but he would be a huge upgrade over O'Connor on the 3rd line. But PIT has no cap space and obviously this roOmEr is as unfounded as all the others he makes up. If Rutherford were stupid enough to trade him straight up for Carter, Dubas would take that in an instant.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
Eklund: Penguins and Canucks Talking Multi-player deal
- Eklund

Why?
jb55
Joined: 07.11.2023

Nov 8 @ 12:47 PM ET
The penguins will take him. He's scored as many goals as all 3 of the 4th line players have now.. And a bonus he doesn't play physical and can't fight. He's sullivans type of player, the less physical the better. They'll probably trade petterson for garlund seeing he's the only fighter the penguins have.

Garlund might be underage though? He's only 27.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 8 @ 2:42 PM ET
man, that trade between the Wild and the Sharks for Addison has really messed up this site
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 8 @ 3:31 PM ET
Garland-Myers-3rd for:

???
GrimReefer
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Dundee, QC
Joined: 02.22.2012

Nov 8 @ 3:33 PM ET
NOBODY really like Garland
FoppaForever
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 11.13.2018

Nov 8 @ 3:46 PM ET
Looks like Billy Guerin is doing whatever he can in his hogtied environment to improve his team. I don't know enough about the Wild this season to know if they're better off with an older stay at home D rather than a younger puck mover.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 8 @ 3:59 PM ET
man, that trade between the Wild and the Sharks for Addison has really messed up this site
- dmnted

Bogosian to the Wild after that !!!!
Sams_Dog
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.03.2005

Nov 8 @ 4:04 PM ET
This does Nothing for the Pens unless they are getting to if Carter in the deal.
mplackitt
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Owen Sound, ON
Joined: 07.11.2014

Nov 8 @ 4:05 PM ET
Between Campbell clearing waivers and the Tampa Minny trade the site couldn't handle the traffic. And now we get this barn burner of a rumor. The site will implode.
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Nov 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
The penguins will take him. He's scored as many goals as all 3 of the 4th line players have now.. And a bonus he doesn't play physical and can't fight. He's sullivans type of player, the less physical the better. They'll probably trade petterson for garlund seeing he's the only fighter the penguins have.

Garlund might be underage though? He's only 27.

- jb55


Well of course any NHL team would "take" Garland. He's a legit middle 6 forward. But not for $4.95M x 3 years. Pitt has $0 cap space. So how do they fit a $5M player? They have 13 players with NMC/NTCs, and I'll bet everyone has the 7 Canadian teams listed. Oh yeah, those 13 players are the largest cap hits on the team. So if you look at all the players without any trade constraints, almost every single one is making less than $1M. Lars Eller is the only contract greater than $1M that can be freely moved. And even then, it's just $2.45M. Does Vancouver want to retain 50% of Garland and swap for Lars Eller? They already have their own Lars Eller. His name is Sam Lafferty and he makes $1.1M.

The point being, Pittsburgh isn't shopping for anyone of significance. Not Garland. Not Couturier. They have no cap space and the 13 largest contracts are hard to move.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Nov 8 @ 4:32 PM ET
Looks like Billy Guerin is doing whatever he can in his hogtied environment to improve his team. I don't know enough about the Wild this season to know if they're better off with an older stay at home D rather than a younger puck mover.
- FoppaForever


The Sharks have no D men that can move the puck. Addison should help. The Wild removed Addison from the #1 PP but he’s played better this year. Middleton is the only physical D man on the Wild. Bogosian seems to be in Jordie Benn territory. Wild D are getting outmuscled and Guerin doesn’t have options. Wild will probably give Faber a shot on the PP.

Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Nov 8 @ 4:47 PM ET
The Sharks have no D men that can move the puck. Addison should help. The Wild removed Addison from the #1 PP but he’s played better this year. Middleton is the only physical D man on the Wild. Bogosian seems to be in Jordie Benn territory. Wild D are getting outmuscled and Guerin doesn’t have options. Wild will probably give Faber a shot on the PP.
- Minnyhock


Bingo. The other factor...Addison had arb rights. Last year he had 29 points in just 62 games. This year he has 5 points in 12 games. If he puts up 30-40 points, then as a young, RHD, he can likely go to arbitration and get a $2M+ deal. Minny has $15M of dead cap next year, so can't afford to have a bottom pair d-man make more than $1M. Bogosian gives them 3rd pair depth and then walks. So the trade gives some sandpaper now and avoids a minor cap issue this summer.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Nov 8 @ 5:04 PM ET
Bingo. The other factor...Addison had arb rights. Last year he had 29 points in just 62 games. This year he has 5 points in 12 games. If he puts up 30-40 points, then as a young, RHD, he can likely go to arbitration and get a $2M+ deal. Minny has $15M of dead cap next year, so can't afford to have a bottom pair d-man make more than $1M. Bogosian gives them 3rd pair depth and then walks. So the trade gives some sandpaper now and avoids a minor cap issue this summer.
- Cooleus


All true. Now the Wild have Spurgeon coming back. He’s the only puck mover and he’s not young and has shown some decline. The writing was on the wall for Addison when he was scratched for the entire playoffs last year. Tough times ahead for the Wild.

PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Nov 8 @ 5:13 PM ET
Vancouver leads the NHL with 54 goals. Conor Garland has scored ONE time, and that was a month ago. He's pretty useless. So what Vancouver wants for him is...cap space! Take him for free. We get $5M of cap space now that we can use either now, or at the deadline to improve our team that appears like a legit contender. The $5M of cap space for the next 2 years will come in handy to give Pettersson a raise.

But will wait to hear what you learn this afternoon.

- Cooleus


The Penguins have no cap Space. You might as well keep him or find another trade partner. Pittsburgh would have to give you a bad contract to take a bad contract.

FoppaForever
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 11.13.2018

Nov 8 @ 5:15 PM ET
The Sharks have no D men that can move the puck. Addison should help. The Wild removed Addison from the #1 PP but he’s played better this year. Middleton is the only physical D man on the Wild. Bogosian seems to be in Jordie Benn territory. Wild D are getting outmuscled and Guerin doesn’t have options. Wild will probably give Faber a shot on the PP.
- Minnyhock


Thanks, Minny. I actually kinda sorta wanted the Avs to claim Bogosian when Tampa waived him right before the season. I think he'd be just fine on the third pair. Guerin has to figure out how to somehow make it through this season and next.
Vw1969wf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.08.2012

Nov 8 @ 7:01 PM ET
so i guess we are not getting an update????
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Nov 8 @ 7:43 PM ET
Sure retain a bit on Garland and Dubas will convince Carter to waive his NMC for Vancouver. Makes lots of sense for both sides...
- jfkst1

Carter? The peanut 🥜 farmer?
The Judge
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 08.30.2021

Nov 8 @ 9:10 PM ET
NOBODY really like Garland
- GrimReefer


Agreed. Some are quite similar though.
jb55
Joined: 07.11.2023

Nov 9 @ 7:48 AM ET
Well of course any NHL team would "take" Garland. He's a legit middle 6 forward. But not for $4.95M x 3 years. Pitt has $0 cap space. So how do they fit a $5M player? They have 13 players with NMC/NTCs, and I'll bet everyone has the 7 Canadian teams listed. Oh yeah, those 13 players are the largest cap hits on the team. So if you look at all the players without any trade constraints, almost every single one is making less than $1M. Lars Eller is the only contract greater than $1M that can be freely moved. And even then, it's just $2.45M. Does Vancouver want to retain 50% of Garland and swap for Lars Eller? They already have their own Lars Eller. His name is Sam Lafferty and he makes $1.1M.

The point being, Pittsburgh isn't shopping for anyone of significance. Not Garland. Not Couturier. They have no cap space and the 13 largest contracts are hard to move.

- Cooleus



I think you forgot what dubas traded out of pittsbugh? 4 horrible contracts. I'm not a fan of garlund (read again) the penguins lack physical players with size and grit. I believe bill guerin was the last "power forward" they had. The penguins are living in the 2016-2017 era with speed??? Speed isn't what's winning nowadays if you look at the rosters the past 6 years of teams that won the cups. And besides that they are older. I'm not even going into the old way of the steelers and mike tomlin. He needed fired years ago with sullivan.
SuckItPhaneuf
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Gloucester
Joined: 08.16.2018

Nov 9 @ 9:39 AM ET
What’s wrong with the fantasy scoring EK?
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