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Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Feb 17 @ 10:44 PM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Friedman Confirms Noah Hanifin to Test Free Agency
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 17 @ 10:48 PM ET

This team needs to sell, sell, sell.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 12:29 AM ET
Hasn't it been speculated on since last deadline that Hanafin wanted to play in a US market? It seems like this is one of the cases, like Lindholm, that everyone expected the player to leave.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 18 @ 1:12 AM ET
Hasn't it been speculated on since last deadline that Hanafin wanted to play in a US market? It seems like this is one of the cases, like Lindholm, that everyone expected the player to leave.
- jfkst1

They were reportedly close to an extension early in the season. They pulled the offer back wanting to see how the season went and by the time they went back to the table he was no longer interested in extending. At least not at the same value they were close on earlier.
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Feb 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Friedman Confirms Noah Hanifin to Test Free Agency
- Trevor_Neufeld_


There goes half his trade value then
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
Nice Piece Trevor.
https://calgaryhockeynow....uins-hanifin-trade-nonis/
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
5-0 DET.

No KY?
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Feb 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Friedman Confirms Noah Hanifin to Test Free Agency
- Trevor_Neufeld_

Well Trevor. Time to do a sign & trade with Florida as Im sure he would extend in a heartbeat to play with his buddy Chucky. Lundell & Forsling coming back? Maybe their 2027 1st hahaha.
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Feb 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
Nice Piece Trevor.
https://calgaryhockeynow....uins-hanifin-trade-nonis/

- DEDDIE


Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.

To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin

To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
This team needs to sell, sell, sell.
- Reubenkincade

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 1:57 PM ET
5-0 DET.

No KY?

- LordHumungous

Sorry to disappoint you. I’ve been painting another rental suite on our property in Sayulita.
Flames sucked a$$ last night, trades can’t happen fast enough.

Canucks losing 4-2 to the Jets is so much more respectable. Not sure if you’re smart enough to realize that they both count as L’s? Anyways you keep being you!
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:20 PM ET
Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.

To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin

To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov

- Trevor_Neufeld_

You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental.
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Feb 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental.
- Kevin R


I believe they dealt this year’s first in the Bertuzzi trade last season. You may be right. It might need sweetener.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Sorry to disappoint you. I’ve been painting another rental suite on our property in Sayulita.
Flames sucked a$$ last night, trades can’t happen fast enough.

Canucks losing 4-2 to the Jets is so much more respectable. Not sure if you’re smart enough to realize that they both count as L’s? Anyways you keep being you!

- K-man25

TBH the game is so fast now you just miss so much out there. 6 referees might be the answer.

jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 3:02 PM ET
You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental.
- Kevin R


Not sure Boston can include their 2025 1st round pick in any deal as it is conditional on their 2024 pick being 11th or later. Believe that might violate NHL trade rules until there is no possibility of that condition being met. Might be possible by the deadline though.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bruins
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 18 @ 3:17 PM ET
Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.

To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin

To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov

- Trevor_Neufeld_


I know nothing about Merkulov other than the info in your piece but a 19 year old Poitras would be significant by himslef.
Grzelcyk makes the money work and the Flames could retain on him too and then flip him to a contender (probably gets us a 3rd) looking for D help.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental.
- Kevin R

Someone posted in Flamesnation a proposed trade with the Jets.
Hanifin and Tanev to the Jets
Barlow, Hienola, and a 1st

Interesting?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
I know nothing about Merkulov other than the info in your piece but a 19 year old Poitras would be significant by himslef.
Grzelcyk makes the money work and the Flames could retain on him too and then flip him to a contender looking for D help.

- DEDDIE

I hadn’t heard of him either.
There’s no way Grzelcyk signs with us, he be strictly a flip at the trade deadline. Not that that can’t happen but I would hope they’ve done some research beforehand. Conroy has had a very interesting 1st year as a GM. Lots to untangle.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
Someone posted in Flamesnation a proposed trade with the Jets.
Hanifin and Tanev to the Jets
Barlow, Hienola, and a 1st

Interesting?

- K-man25

The Jets dont have a 2024 1st so it would have to be a 2025 and Hienola is now 22 and its doubtfull he's ever much of an NHL player IMO.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
The Jets dont have a 2024 1st so it would have to be a 2025 and Hienola is now 22 and its doubtfull he's ever much of an NHL player IMO.
- DEDDIE

Projected top 4 but hasn’t had much of a chance in Winnipeg. 2025 1st would be ok, Barlow was wanted by many Flame faithful at the last draft.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 18 @ 6:48 PM ET
Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.

To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin

To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov

- Trevor_Neufeld_


This trade doesn't make a lot of sense for either team. Defence is already their biggest strength when you look at the Bruins organization. Centre is a weak spot. Hanifin isn't a big enough upgrade to justify their only centre prospect who's even close to NHL ready. They also shouldn't be extending Hanifin unless he's taking a massive discount. They already have over 20 million a year committed to three defencemen for three more years. They also have Lohrei who plays the same spot as Hanifin and is probably ready to be a top four defenceman.

From the Flame's perspective, Poitras is a nice piece, but Grzelcyk is a UFA and Merkulov might be a bottom-six guy. They should be able to do better than that. The Flames should be after Poitras and Lohrei or Lysell even if they have to add something to sweeten it a bit.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 18 @ 11:47 PM ET
Daniel Tkaczuk, Rico Fata, Oleg Saprykin, Brent Kahn, Chuck Kobasew, Eric Nystrom, Dion Phanuef, Chris Chucko, Matt Pelech, Leland Irving, Michael Backlund, Greg Nemisz, Tim Erixon, Sven Baertschi, Mark Jankowski, Morgan Klimchuk, Emile Poirier, Sean Monahan, Sam Bennett, Matthew Tkachuk, Juuso Valikmaki, Jakob Pelletier, Connor Zary, Matt Coronato, and Samuel Honzek. Those are all the Flames 1st round picks since 97. I'd say you can't judge about 4 of them and they hit on about 7 of them. That makes 14 failures. Not really reaching.

Still wondering where my "reaching" is from here?

2 guys got heavy on me for my criticism of their drafting. Show me where I am wrong in their 1st round selections over the years. They have either given up or failed on most successful, been forced to move one or another, or the others aren't proven yet. A few exceptions in there.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 19 @ 12:33 AM ET
This trade doesn't make a lot of sense for either team. Defence is already their biggest strength when you look at the Bruins organization. Centre is a weak spot. Hanifin isn't a big enough upgrade to justify their only centre prospect who's even close to NHL ready. They also shouldn't be extending Hanifin unless he's taking a massive discount. They already have over 20 million a year committed to three defencemen for three more years. They also have Lohrei who plays the same spot as Hanifin and is probably ready to be a top four defenceman.

From the Flame's perspective, Poitras is a nice piece, but Grzelcyk is a UFA and Merkulov might be a bottom-six guy. They should be able to do better than that. The Flames should be after Poitras and Lohrei or Lysell even if they have to add something to sweeten it a bit.

- Squeaky


The Bruins are 4-4-2 in their last 10 and have fallen from 1st overall to a 3 way tie for 4th. They also have given up 16 PP goals in their last 16 games so it seems reasonable to me that they may well be looking to upgrade their blueline & PK.

If you dont think Hani is a big upgrade on Grzelcyk you're in a very small minority.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 19 @ 12:47 AM ET
The Bruins are 4-4-2 in their last 10 and have fallen from 1st overall to a 3 way tie for 4th. They also have given up 16 PP goals in their last 16 games so it seems reasonable to me that they may well be looking to upgrade their blueline & PK.

If you dont think Hani is a big upgrade on Grzelcyk you're in a very small minority.

- DEDDIE

Sure Hanifan is an upgrade on Grz, but he is also a increase on pay if they wish to retain him. They have about 32M for 12 players including the need for a 1C. They would be wiser to use their assets and potential space for an upgrade there than their 2-3D when their d is already a strength.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 19 @ 1:48 AM ET
The Bruins are 4-4-2 in their last 10 and have fallen from 1st overall to a 3 way tie for 4th. They also have given up 16 PP goals in their last 16 games so it seems reasonable to me that they may well be looking to upgrade their blueline & PK.

If you dont think Hani is a big upgrade on Grzelcyk you're in a very small minority.

- DEDDIE


He's not a big enough upgrade to justify the cost or what it means for their future, especially when you factor in he'd probably be playing with McAvoy. MvAvoy is a clear number one, so you don't need as much from his partner. Is he willing to extend in Boston for 5 million a year? If he's not, I don't see how it makes sense for them.

It'd be like when the Flames ruined their team makeup by adding Boumeester when they didn't have the need or the Penguins adding Karlsson to a team with Letang. It's money that should be spent elsewhere.

I can see them wanting a depth guy on the back end, but I doubt they bring in anyone more expensive than a Tanev type.
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