Jared Crozier: What Is Marc Methot's Value And Should The Senators Re-Sign Him?

Conclusion: Stats prove his value isn't huge, he's a byproduct of EK mostly

Jared Crozier: What Is Marc Methot's Value And Should The Senators Re-Sign Him?
- JaredCrozier

YES!! Yes they should.. $5.0 x 4 years

Jared Crozier: What Is Marc Methot's Value And Should The Senators Re-Sign Him?
- JaredCrozier

Nice analysis, although it looks as though some of your images are broken....

I agree with your conclusions. Methot looks like risky business on the term and dollar he's looking for... I'd be pretty happy trading him, in spite of our shallowness on D.

Nice analysis, although it looks as though some of your images are broken....

I agree with your conclusions. Methot looks like risky business on the term and dollar he's looking for... I'd be pretty happy trading him, in spite of our shallowness on D.
- Mr_Clean

What can we honestly get in return for methot ?

A low 1st rounder from a contender (20-30th overall ?

If BM trades away our second best defencemen from this roster, he may as well trade Andy as well and tank this season and next.

Sens have Zero players ready to fill his spot on the top pairing with EK65

I'd love it if Methot re-signed here but I don't think it'll happen and in the long run that may be best for him and for the team.

Hopefully he can be traded to LA (along with another piece) to get their 1st.

In the summer with the departures of Methot, Neil, Phillips, Weircioch and maybe Smith we will have a lot of money to spend to be just over the cap floor and there will be teams that need to unload money. That's where our GM will be shrewd and pick up a top 4 defender on the cheap.

Nice analysis, although it looks as though some of your images are broken....

I agree with your conclusions. Methot looks like risky business on the term and dollar he's looking for... I'd be pretty happy trading him, in spite of our shallowness on D.
- Mr_Clean

hence my disclaimer at the top

Methot for Emelin. Get it done MB.

What can we honestly get in return for methot ?

A low 1st rounder from a contender (20-30th overall ?

If BM trades away our second best defencemen from this roster, he may as well trade Andy as well and tank this season and next.

Sens have Zero players ready to fill his spot on the top pairing with EK65
- Erik6Karlsson5

Between paying him $25 million for 5 years, trading him, or letting him walk for nothing at the end of the season, I choose trading him.

We have no-one to replace him at the moment, fine. But he is anything but irreplaceable.

i think Methot wants way to much money,for what hes doing a would pay a max 3 million for him, but hes looking for like 4.5...and he dont wantto stay in ottawa. ottawa would do good in trade him for a equal defender like sekera or green, currently they maybe get a 3rdrounder maybe a 2ndrounder for him.
history shows us, there is always a team to overpay, and he willfind this team!

a methot/anderson package ( bothhave no NTC) would be nice, to edm? for eberle?
lehner can be #1 goalie, he needs a reliable backup, like enroth even this would be i nice one to see for the #1 spot...

but here comes the sens #1 problemagain:
eugene melynk dont wanttooen his wallet in the offseason foragood UFA, he like toget guys like legwand (overpaid),thats the issue of the sens!

great write up. i've long felt that methot was a good 2nd pairing guy, playing on the top pair simply because we have nobody else to put there.

i'm not averse to bringing him back, but i'd prefer if it was for max 3 years

Between paying him $25 million for 5 years, trading him, or letting him walk for nothing at the end of the season, I choose trading him.

We have no-one to replace him at the moment, fine. But he is anything but irreplaceable.
- Mr_Clean

I would hope that option three is not even on the table.

I would hope that option three is not even on the table.
- david22

you either sign him before the trade deadline or you trade him, can't take the risk of losing him for nothing

I would hope that option three is not even on the table.
- david22

no, if a contract can't get done he will be traded for whatever they can get before the deadline

I think the Sens would be wise to resign Methot. He brings a bit of everything. Very good stay at home physical d-man, provides some leadership on a young blueline, and doesn't handle the puck like a grenade. 5 mill per is a little steep, but is going to be the going rate for legit top 4 d-men. My main concern is his health. He hasn't played a lot of hockey this season so we really don't know how his back is doing. Ideally Methot gets an "A" along with Ryan and our leadership is set for awhile.

I would hope that option three is not even on the table.
- david22

It seems like he players that make it UFA are the guys that their teams have better players ahead of them and signed to good contracts. The guys that make it to UFA are all paid for too long and for too much. If a guy makes it to UFA, there's usually a reason. A guy like Methot is a 2nd pairing D man and in an ideal world would be in a 3-4 year contract between 3.5-4 million per season. But, since the UFA market is so thin lately he'll likely get 5-6 years around $5 million

you either sign him before the trade deadline or you trade him, can't take the risk of losing him for nothing
- Symba007

Yep that's what I was thinking, can't let an asset like that go for free.

Figure he could get a second at least from a contending team.

I would hope that option three is not even on the table.
- david22

I would hope so as well, but we've been down this road before...

I guess I don't understand, if he wants 5 million+ over the long term, why we wouldn't trade him anyways... It's a win-win.

He gets a chance to play in the playoffs, and possibly to raise his FA value.
We get a pick.
If he really wants to come back to Ottawa, he can still do so.

In any case, I don't want to give him an Orpik deal.

I think the Sens would be wise to resign Methot. He brings a bit of everything. Very good stay at home physical d-man, provides some leadership on a young blueline, and doesn't handle the puck like a grenade. 5 mill per is a little steep, but is going to be the going rate for legit top 4 d-men. My main concern is his health. He hasn't played a lot of hockey this season so we really don't know how his back is doing. Ideally Methot gets an "A" along with Ryan and our leadership is set for awhile.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

i agree with all of this..................as long as they don't pay him money and term based on him playing on the top pairing.

ideal..

3 years x 5 mil

or

4 years at 4.25

I think the Sens would be wise to resign Methot. He brings a bit of everything. Very good stay at home physical d-man, provides some leadership on a young blueline, and doesn't handle the puck like a grenade. 5 mill per is a little steep, but is going to be the going rate for legit top 4 d-men. My main concern is his health. He hasn't played a lot of hockey this season so we really don't know how his back is doing. Ideally Methot gets an "A" along with Ryan and our leadership is set for awhile.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

We will regret giving Methot 5 million+ on a 5 year+ deal. If we can substantially reduce the term or dollar involved then fine, but otherwise it really doesn't fit in the slightest with the mentality that this franchise has displayed. He is a solid defenseman atm, no question, but for the Senators to invest big money on an injury-prone veteran on a long-term deal just doesn't fit with what they've been doing of late.

i agree with all of this..................as long as they don't pay him money and term based on him playing on the top pairing.

ideal..

3 years x 5 mil

or

4 years at 4.25
- sensarmy_11

Honestly, if the money were available (it isn't) I'd rather give him 6M for 2 years than 5M for 3... Long-term cap and budget flexibility should be the number one priority.

I would hope so as well, but we've been down this road before...

I guess I don't understand, if he wants 5 million+ over the long term, why we wouldn't trade him anyways... It's a win-win.

He gets a chance to play in the playoffs, and possibly to raise his FA value.
We get a pick.
If he really wants to come back to Ottawa, he can still do so.

In any case, I don't want to give him an Orpik deal.
- Mr_Clean

Does this happen often? I feel like the options are he stays or he goes. No coming back after.

Methot for Emelin. Get it done MB.
- maxbart5

Add a 2nd rounder or a good prospect and it's not that bad for Ott.

If they can get a 1st rounder for him, good for them and take it and run. If not, either resign him or get a serviceable piece in return.

Does this happen often? I feel like the options are he stays or he goes. No coming back after.
- david22

Yeah I get that it doesn't happen, I just don't understand logically why not.

My point is, what the Methot camp is reportedly asking for doesn't really seem to be much of a hometown discount. If there's no hometown discount being offered, then I don't see any harm in letting him go to another team at the deadline... If he really wants to be part of the Senators' plans in the future - and the feelings are mutual - then he can come back regardless.

Yeah I get that it doesn't happen, I just don't understand logically why not.

My point is, what the Methot camp is reportedly asking for doesn't really seem to be much of a hometown discount. If there's no hometown discount being offered, then I don't see any harm in letting him go to another team at the deadline... If he really wants to be part of the Senators' plans in the future - and the feelings are mutual - then he can come back regardless.
- Mr_Clean

Yeah I hear ya.

He seems to say he wants to stay here, but if he really wanted to sign, then like you said there'd be a HT discount, and he'd have signed already.