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Jared Crozier
Ottawa Senators
Location: Gatineau, QC
Joined: 09.26.2014

Mar 12 @ 9:05 AM ET
Jared Crozier: Game Day: Maple Leafs @ Senators - Return Of Greening and Michalek
tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:12 AM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/...r-2015-16-report/c-769089

Murray will retire this year and give the team to Dorion/ Richardson/ Lee.

So the question is - is Murrays greatest accomplishment in his 35 years in hockey drafting Erik Karlsson? I say yes it is.

What else could it be? His first round draft with Perry/Getzlaf - good players but not generational, not rewriting history like Erik is. He didn't win anything as a coach, he never built a winner as a GM.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 12 @ 9:38 AM ET
I suspect the HNIC coverage to be even worse that last week. Seriously considering boycotting the game on TV and just stream it from a random website (don't think viewership counts that way). If they don't get viewers, they would be forced to make changes. I honestly thought Rogers would put together a decent broadcast when they got the rights. I wasn't even put off by hiring Strombo. However, it's all gone to poop and has really ruined Saturday night hockey. The Leaf pumping is bad. It's even worse when terrible broadcasters are doing it. Even when they discuss other NHL things it's just weird, over the top, or not applicable to anything. How Elliot Freidman sits/semi stands at that desk is beyond me.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:40 AM ET
I suspect the HNIC coverage to be even worse that last week. Seriously considering boycotting the game on TV and just stream it from a random website (don't think viewership counts that way). If they don't get viewers, they would be forced to make changes. I honestly thought Rogers would put together a decent broadcast when they got the rights. I wasn't even put off by hiring Strombo. However, it's all gone to poop and has really ruined Saturday night hockey. The Leaf pumping is bad. It's even worse when terrible broadcasters are doing it. Even when they discuss other NHL things it's just weird, over the top, or not applicable to anything. How Elliot Freidman sits/semi stands at that desk is beyond me.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


You Sens fans are delusional. The Leafs get criticized by HNIC more than anyone.
The Canuck homer Hughson calling a Leaf game Oh my!
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:40 AM ET
I suspect the HNIC coverage to be even worse that last week. Seriously considering boycotting the game on TV and just stream it from a random website (don't think viewership counts that way). If they don't get viewers, they would be forced to make changes. I honestly thought Rogers would put together a decent broadcast when they got the rights. I wasn't even put off by hiring Strombo. However, it's all gone to poop and has really ruined Saturday night hockey. The Leaf pumping is bad. It's even worse when terrible broadcasters are doing it. Even when they discuss other NHL things it's just weird, over the top, or not applicable to anything. How Elliot Freidman sits/semi stands at that desk is beyond me.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


You Sens fans are delusional. The Leafs get criticized by HNIC more than anyone.
The Canuck homer Hughson calling a Leaf game Oh my!
captrjd
Ottawa Senators
Location: Petawawa, ON
Joined: 01.06.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:41 AM ET
I don't care about standings and draft choices. Losing to the Leafs is always angering.
captrjd
Ottawa Senators
Location: Petawawa, ON
Joined: 01.06.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:53 AM ET
You Sens fans are delusional. The Leafs get criticized by HNIC more than anyone.
The Canuck homer Hughson calling a Leaf game Oh my!

- RogerRoeper


I don't think I ever heard anything funnier than a Leaf fan calling anyone delusional.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:56 AM ET
I don't think I ever heard anything funnier than a Leaf fan calling anyone delusional.

- captrjd

When we defended Dion Phaneuf against Sens fans we were called delusional.This is true.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 12 @ 9:58 AM ET
You Sens fans are delusional. The Leafs get criticized by HNIC more than anyone.
The Canuck homer Hughson calling a Leaf game Oh my!

- RogerRoeper

The actual broadcasts of the game are ok. It's the in studio stuff that's absolute garbage. You must not have watched last weeks broadcast. You would have thought the Leafs are leading the league and have the best prospects in the entire NHL. It was just comical. Leafs stuff aside, the "experts" are jokes. It's embarrassing that they aren't drunk or high. They have no business discussing hockey, let alone at a national scale (excluding Freidman of course). Possibly the worse live sports production available today.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:05 AM ET
The actual broadcasts of the game are ok. It's the in studio stuff that's absolute garbage. You must not have watched last weeks broadcast. You would have thought the Leafs are leading the league and have the best prospects in the entire NHL. It was just comical. Leafs stuff aside, the "experts" are jokes. It's embarrassing that they aren't drunk or high. They have no business discussing hockey, let alone at a national scale (excluding Freidman of course). Possibly the worse live sports production available today.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

The Leafs are very close to indeed having the best prospects in the NHL. Without a doubt by the end of the June draft they'll have the #1 prospect pool.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:20 AM ET
The Leafs are very close to indeed having the best prospects in the NHL. Without a doubt by the end of the June draft they'll have the #1 prospect pool.
- RogerRoeper

You're ignoring the main point of my post. The garbage Rogers production.
Ottawa Fan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.17.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:27 AM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/senators-murray-to-leave-gm-job-after-2015-16-report/c-769089

Murray will retire this year and give the team to Dorion/ Richardson/ Lee.

So the question is - is Murrays greatest accomplishment in his 35 years in hockey drafting Erik Karlsson? I say yes it is.

What else could it be? His first round draft with Perry/Getzlaf - good players but not generational, not rewriting history like Erik is. He didn't win anything as a coach, he never built a winner as a GM.

- tuna99



Article from May 2015. Didn't he update his plans more recently

GOLEAFS71
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AB
Joined: 08.09.2013

Mar 12 @ 10:36 AM ET
You're ignoring the main point of my post. The garbage Rogers production.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


But what you said to support your argument about the broadcast crew going on about the leafs having the best prospects in the league.... Well, they might be onto something with that one. I miss old Cbc broadcasts and tsn too, but hard to be angry at sportsnet crew for speaking he truth.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
But what you said to support your argument about the broadcast crew going on about the leafs having the best prospects in the league.... Well, they might be onto something with that one. I miss old Cbc broadcasts and tsn too, but hard to be angry at sportsnet crew for speaking he truth.
- GOLEAFS71

Decent set of prospects, yes, but it was the way they were portraying them. Showing their "great plays" from the last few games, while the score in the corner is 4-1 for the opposing team.

They pump the Leafs because it's basically 3/4 of their viewership. I get it. It's just frustrating to see them talk about them like they are playing well this year. They are in the running for Matthews for a reason.

But again, it's just not the Leafs stuff. The hockey conversations in general are a joke. The reporting is a joke. The playing with hockey sticks on a 3D rink is a joke. It's all effing bad.
GOLEAFS71
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AB
Joined: 08.09.2013

Mar 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
Decent set of prospects, yes, but it was the way they were portraying them. Showing their "great plays" from the last few games, while the score in the corner is 4-1 for the opposing team.

They pump the Leafs because it's basically 3/4 of their viewership. I get it. It's just frustrating to see them talk about them like they are playing well this year. They are in the running for Matthews for a reason.

But again, it's just not the Leafs stuff. The hockey conversations in general are a joke. The reporting is a joke. The playing with hockey sticks on a 3D rink is a joke. It's all effing bad.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0



I can't argue with ya there really. Not a fan of it either. The on ice product is what really matters and they aren't lacking in that aspect. Players are bigger and faster than ever. Great to watch.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
I can't argue with ya there really. Not a fan of it either. The on ice product is what really matters and they aren't lacking in that aspect. Players are bigger and faster than ever. Great to watch.
- GOLEAFS71

I wish the East had the talent the West has.
Ottawa Fan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.17.2007

Mar 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
I would like to see Hammond play more. Put up good numbers when Anderson was out.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 12 @ 2:07 PM ET
I wish the East had the talent the West has.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

It is frustrating. Seems like every decent player in the east has to get traded to the west in fear of playing them 3 times a year vs the 2 time they play the western teams. Seguin, spezza, Carter, and many more. Over time that just makes two different leagues in terms of skill.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Mar 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
It is frustrating. Seems like every decent player in the east has to get traded to the west in fear of playing them 3 times a year vs the 2 time they play the western teams. Seguin, spezza, Carter, and many more. Over time that just makes two different leagues in terms of skill.
- cburgess

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
The Leafs are very close to indeed having the best prospects in the NHL. Without a doubt by the end of the June draft they'll have the #1 prospect pool.
- RogerRoeper


ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Mar 12 @ 3:18 PM ET

- sensarmy_11

Not sure why its so funny.. Its really the only thing going for them obviously you hate the Leafs but they have a lot of very good prospects. Especially on forward. Could easily be arguably the best or close to it on the league
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 12 @ 3:19 PM ET

- sensarmy_11


That's enough emoticons to make it untrue.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:23 PM ET
Not sure why its so funny.. Its really the only thing going for them
- ClarksonDavid

They have 2-3 good prospects......but #1 system, not even close.

I'd easily take the young guys from Edm, buff, fla, phx, wpg over the leafs.......maybe a couple of others also.

Toronto is certainly heading in the right direction, but they have a long way to go to catch up to the systems some of those teams have built
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Mar 12 @ 3:25 PM ET
They have 2-3 hood prospects......but #1, not even close.

I'd easily take the young guys from Edm, buff, fla, phx, wpg over the leafs.

Toronto is certainly heading in the right direction, but they have a long way to go to catch up to the systems some of those teams have built

- sensarmy_11

The teams you listed have good young guys in the line up.. he more than likely meant guys not in the league yet..
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
The teams you listed have good young guys in the line up.. he more than likely meant guys not in the league yet..
- ClarksonDavid


So then nylader doesn't count for the leafs? You have marner and that's it?

A young guy is a young guy.

Does Toronto have better prospects cuz marner is still in London while McDavid and eichel are in the nhl?
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