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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 17 @ 12:40 AM ET
Jason Millen: Blues stay undefeated by downing the Rangers Blues stay undefeated by downing the Rangers
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 2:10 AM ET
Elliott's svpsct is above 5. FIVE. He has looked terrible. Note Johnson plays their third game and how many did he give up?

Yes it is early. But what is the same story line with Elliott? He takes the mantel and sinks. The other goalie outplays him. He then starts playing better with a chip on his shoulder and only as a back up for so many games in a row before he slides back down with one abberation occurring last year. On bad defensive teams he played his way nearly out of the NHL. He has a lot of weaknesses and the Blues learned to play to them to protect him most of the time.

Krieder was great that game. Hard to truly rate the Blues when they were missing so many players for such a long period of time in a third game in four days.

Every chance to take a crack out of whiners that ask for trades who dare to not be, you know, grateful will be taken. No Blues Elliott is ut of the NHL probably done playing by now.


BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 2:21 AM ET
If anyone wants to scratch their head, then laugh hysterically, then scratch their head read this crap.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-goaltenders-nhl-numbers/
cuethenoise
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 01.22.2013

Oct 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
Wow that article was hilarious. Halak and Elliott in the top 20?
SpeedBlue91
New York Rangers
Location: Union, NJ
Joined: 06.12.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:11 AM ET
A couple other notes from the game:

-The Blues didn't register a single shot on goal in the 3rd period, and only 1 shot attempt. That's a dangerous game to play, and it won't work every night.

-Kevin Hayes, who was apparently invisible, was a +6 on the night in 5v5 corsi differential. He also only played 13:40 on the night, with a peculiar 2:28 of it coming shorthanded. He seemed invisible because he wasn't on the ice much. When he was, he was clearly an effective player.
WhatAboutBawb
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.20.2013

Oct 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Has Gunnar, Brodziak, and Lehtera all been put on IR or D2d?

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St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 06.23.2011

Oct 17 @ 12:07 PM ET
Has Gunnar, Brodziak, and Lehtera all been put on IR or D2d?
- WhatAboutBawb


None of them were on the ice for practice, lehtera not traveling, gunnar brodziak and schwartz will be on the trip
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Oct 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
A couple other notes from the game:

-The Blues didn't register a single shot on goal in the 3rd period, and only 1 shot attempt. That's a dangerous game to play, and it won't work every night.

- SpeedBlue91


Given the Blues won't be playing their 3rd game in 4 nights with only 9 forwards and 5 defensemen every night, I don't think anyone here is worried about that.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 17 @ 12:28 PM ET
If anyone wants to scratch their head, then laugh hysterically, then scratch their head read this crap.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-goaltenders-nhl-numbers/

- BluemanGuruu


Seems to ignore the effect that teammates have on a goalie's play. There aught to be a modifier for shots off of rebounds that would give goalies who have better rebound control an advantage, though if defensemen clear those rebounds...
cuethenoise
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 01.22.2013

Oct 17 @ 12:57 PM ET
Schwartz could play Tuesday! Wonder who gets sent down?
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:05 PM ET
Seems to ignore the effect that teammates have on a goalie's play. There aught to be a modifier for shots off of rebounds that would give goalies who have better rebound control an advantage, though if defensemen clear those rebounds...
- eggsegan


Fancy stats problem?
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:05 PM ET
Schwartz could play Tuesday! Wonder who gets sent down?
- cuethenoise


Nobody as i suspect someone else may get put on IR.
cuethenoise
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 01.22.2013

Oct 17 @ 1:17 PM ET
Nobody as i suspect someone else may get put on IR.
- Jason Millen

Who knows they are all day to day, but I could see them putting a guy on there for a week. After that???
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Oct 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
Who knows they are all day to day, but I could see them putting a guy on there for a week. After that???
- cuethenoise


easy Rattie or Paajarvi and if they get claimed good

This team has a logjam in the bottom 6 and some guys are going to be exposed to waivers

I doubt Schwartz is back tomorrow my guess is the end of the trip
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Oct 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Blues goalies are generally being beaten to the glove side so far this year. This may bear watching.
- Jason Millen



You worry about the goal tending too much.

You're harshing my mellow......

Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Who knows they are all day to day, but I could see them putting a guy on there for a week. After that???
- cuethenoise


Assuming rattie given yakupov's arrival. Jaskin and paajarvi are both more versatile.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
Former blue d-man Michalek sent down by the Coyotes
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
A couple other notes from the game:

-The Blues didn't register a single shot on goal in the 3rd period, and only 1 shot attempt. That's a dangerous game to play, and it won't work every night.

-Kevin Hayes, who was apparently invisible, was a +6 on the night in 5v5 corsi differential. He also only played 13:40 on the night, with a peculiar 2:28 of it coming shorthanded. He seemed invisible because he wasn't on the ice much. When he was, he was clearly an effective player.

- SpeedBlue91


Yeah the Blues were playing their third game in four nights and were missing three players fairly early into the game. The first to go caused centermen to get double shifted from the second period on. The next to go caused there to be only three lines and Reaves and this happened twoards the end of the second period. So when it came to the third period, now also down a defender the Blues were on fumes.

So when the Blues go from a dominant team in Corsi to beatable and a ready explanation is available I think you can easily identify the corollary, at least I hope you can.

If you fail to noitce that scoreboard plus your defense sucks and will be the weakness of yur team. Be grateful one of the anchors on your defense will be out some time. But what happens when your decent to one of the two good defenders you have on your team gets injured for significant time? Plus King Henry is fresh now but by the time the okay offs start? Probably not. Then you have to wonder how a forward group so talented failed to score off a extremely depleted and tired team and realize that your team's forward core is not as good as Dallas with a broken or injured Lundquvist means your team is unlikely, unless a number of things go right for them, to make it out of the first round of thenokay offs, if they can avoid significant injuries that could jeapordize their making said play offs.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Seems to ignore the effect that teammates have on a goalie's play. There aught to be a modifier for shots off of rebounds that would give goalies who have better rebound control an advantage, though if defensemen clear those rebounds...
- eggsegan

there are such stats.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
You worry about the goal tending too much.

You're harshing my mellow......

- bcallaway

BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
Former blue d-man Michalek sent down by the Coyotes
- Jason Millen

They put him on waivers at the end of camp. Shocked someone like Edmnton takes Russell but passes on him.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
Assuming rattie given yakupov's arrival. Jaskin and paajarvi are both more versatile.
- Jason Millen

If Schwartz is coming back earlier it is because a significant forward is injured. I think the Blues want to see Rattie in at least one game before deciding on him.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
If there is any truth to Arizona's looking at Shattenkirk the Blues have to find a way to get Keller. At least Dvorak plus. But Keller definitely. Need centers.
richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Oct 17 @ 5:18 PM ET
A couple other notes from the game:

-The Blues didn't register a single shot on goal in the 3rd period, and only 1 shot attempt. That's a dangerous game to play, and it won't work every night.

-Kevin Hayes, who was apparently invisible, was a +6 on the night in 5v5 corsi differential. He also only played 13:40 on the night, with a peculiar 2:28 of it coming shorthanded. He seemed invisible because he wasn't on the ice much. When he was, he was clearly an effective player.

- SpeedBlue91


Hayes currently plays with Nash, who was the rangers leading shooter last year. Nash made his Corsi look better that game. I would agree though. Hayes looked invisible to me.

Good game by you guys. Tarasenko is a gem. I wouldn't be surprised if he pushed for the most goals this year.
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
You worry about the goal tending too much.

You're harshing my mellow......

- bcallaway

Didn't Hutton get beat stick side both times? If anything the goaltending has exceeded expectations so far. A lot of people were unhappy with the Hutton signing and were wanting to keep Elliott or Nilsson.

I think the goalie coaches and Brodeur know what they are doing.
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