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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 4 @ 5:38 PM ET
Karine Hains: Farewell Kotkaniemi 3 years after being drafted by the Montreal Canadiens, Jesperi Kotkaniemi has been “kidnapped” by the Carolina Hurricanes.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 4 @ 5:43 PM ET
Oh
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 4 @ 5:43 PM ET
good luck kid, hope you turn up good.
may that be the last nail in the coffin of this scouting group.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Sep 4 @ 5:44 PM ET
Karine
Hains: Farewell Kotkaniemi

3 years after being drafted by the Montreal Canadiens, Jesperi Kotkaniemi has been “kidnapped” by the Carolina Hurricanes.

- Karine Hains

https://twitter.com/renla.../1434270540123058176?s=21
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Sep 4 @ 5:47 PM ET
"He was rushed to the NHL and it showed"

Just like Galchenyuk, who missed the entire year of his draft year and habs rushed him to the line up, habs have no one to blame but themselves for rushing TWO #3
OA centers into the NHL. If KK breaks out in CAR, blame ducharme, if he flops, Bergevin got lucky by not matching.
gonch
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 4 @ 5:47 PM ET
Big mistake not matching....
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 4 @ 5:53 PM ET
good luck kid, hope you turn up good.
may that be the last nail in the coffin of this scouting group.

- fidopro


I gotta hand it to you guys. Wishing the kid well, gallows humor, nothing bitter or vindictive. Classy.

Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Sep 4 @ 5:53 PM ET
I gotta hand it to you guys. Wishing the kid well, gallows humor, nothing bitter or vindictive. Classy.
- Minnyhock

Kid didn't do anything wrong
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 4 @ 5:54 PM ET
I gotta hand it to you guys. Wishing the kid well, gallows humor, nothing bitter or vindictive. Classy.
- Minnyhock

hey! cannot blame him. I would have done the same thing.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 4 @ 5:59 PM ET
good luck kid, hope you turn up good.
may that be the last nail in the coffin of this scouting group.

- fidopro


If he does well, then that is bad on the scouting group?

Seems to me justification for drafting him, and then the problem is on development and asset management end.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 4 @ 6:00 PM ET
hey! cannot blame him. I would have done the same thing.
- fidopro


We all would have done to be fair. If there’s someone to blame it’s the Montreal organization and no one else.
MR.OILER
Joined: 08.14.2007

Sep 4 @ 6:00 PM ET
Galchenyuk will be back
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 4 @ 6:00 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Canes...tatus/1434273579177332736

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 4 @ 6:01 PM ET
If he does well, then that is bad on the scouting group?

Seems to me justification for drafting him, and then the problem is on development and asset management end.

- Mashadar

yeah, scouting, management... they all work together and all made a mistake at different levels imo
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Sep 4 @ 6:02 PM ET
We all would have done to be fair. If there’s someone to blame it’s the Montreal organization and no one else.
- Karine Hains

Bergevin should be blamed for that dumb offer sheet. The value was fair, but they shortened the term Carolina was probably aiming for, so it ruffled feathers with no chance of being successful.
Slimvinnie
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.07.2009

Sep 4 @ 6:02 PM ET
Thé moment KK agreed to sign an offer that included an insult to the Canadiens, life in MTL was over. I truly believe that he was poorly advised by his agent, not for the 6.1 but for the insult….it may come and haunt him one day. Good luck in Carolina…… but now is time for MB to go get a Top 2 centre. They have picks and players…. Do your job MB! BTW, I would definitely like to see more “hostile” offers in the future…I just don’t understand this gentlemen agreement poop!!
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 4 @ 6:03 PM ET
yeah, scouting, management... they all work together and all made a mistake at different levels imo
- fidopro


I really thought with Bouchard coming on board, the Habs finally saw the light in proper player development and asset management.

Guess not, that never really happened, except for a few marginal NHL players.

And now Bouchard is gone too.... that might be the biggest loss of the off-season.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 4 @ 6:05 PM ET
I really thought with Bouchard coming on board, the Habs finally saw the light in proper player development and asset management.

Guess not.

And now Bouchard is gone too.... that might be the biggest loss of the off-season.

- Mashadar


depends if his replacement is good or not.
as for kk, he was not the bpa at the time. far from it. they went with the position instead, and got burned. that was the first mistake. before managing the development.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Sep 4 @ 6:05 PM ET
We all would have done to be fair. If there’s someone to blame it’s the Montreal organization and no one else.
- Karine Hains

Thank you. Not sure how some people don't see this
hockeyaddict89
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.26.2015

Sep 4 @ 6:11 PM ET
I saw this coming. Totally on the organization as they developed KK poorly and messed with his potential. How I loathe how horrible Canadien dev. system is. The worst.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Sep 4 @ 6:16 PM ET
"He was rushed to the NHL and it showed"

Just like Galchenyuk, who missed the entire year of his draft year and habs rushed him to the line up, habs have no one to blame but themselves for rushing TWO #3
OA centers into the NHL. If KK breaks out in CAR, blame ducharme, if he flops, Bergevin got lucky by not matching.

- Mithos


Ducharme is not the only one to blame if KK breaks out it is the whole management team but I want to see how MB will replace KK and Danault in the lineup
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Sep 4 @ 6:17 PM ET
Dave Pagnotta and His loyal followers, you're a joke !
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 4 @ 6:18 PM ET
Ducharme is not the only one to blame if KK breaks out it is the whole management team but I want to see how MB will replace KK and Danault in the lineup
- habs88888

to me, that's where I have a ?.
if you're not satisfied with kk (and obviously they weren't), why let Danault walk? what was plan B?
BoutchBouchard
Joined: 06.28.2012

Sep 4 @ 6:26 PM ET
Dvorak for a 1 and a 2 . Just announced
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 4 @ 6:27 PM ET
Dvorak for a 1 and a 2 . Just announced
- BoutchBouchard

yep, 1st 2022 and 2nd 2024
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