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Zak MacMillan
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Joined: 09.21.2015

Apr 6 @ 7:01 PM ET
Zak MacMillan: The Winner of the Cam Atkinson for Jakub Voracek Deal is Clearly Columbus
langano
Joined: 01.23.2010

Apr 6 @ 7:12 PM ET
I think you mean clearly Philly.
cheesesteak37
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.11.2019

Apr 6 @ 7:37 PM ET
Why wasn't the Flyers' biggest veteran addition mentioned, Ryan Ellis? Slated to be the #1 all-purpose RHD, he played 4 games this year. I agree that the trade addressed each team's weakness. Saying Columbus is better than Philly this year isn't saying much.
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

Apr 6 @ 8:02 PM ET
The flyers were missing their 1D and 1C for most of the year and their 2C for half of the year. They were average before the injuries but I’m not aware of too many teams that can absorb those types of injuries and still be successful.
Levit8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Joined: 07.24.2015

Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
Pure click bait.
You don't even bother to make a solid point.
Go work for CNN.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM ET
Dude your a hack. 5 goals. Yep great trade.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 7 @ 7:26 AM ET
You're clueless!! How bout that take?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 7:43 AM ET
Columbus will never make the playoffs with Jake. The guy aint a winner in any way. just look at the teams he has been on his whole career. Take Cam any day over bobby abreau
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:19 AM ET
Zak MacMillan: The Winner of the Cam Atkinson for Jakub Voracek Deal is Clearly Columbus
- Zak MacMillan


fans : we need a center for Laine

Kekaleinen: No, you need a playmaker for Laine


I hope for Jarmo's sake Larson can bring this team to the post-season (of course not this year)
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:45 AM ET
Dude your a hack. 5 goals. Yep great trade.
- Joe Nardone


So you would tell Adam Oates in his hey day that he was useless for having far more assists than goals. I think you might be the hack with your comment. Players are more valuable to other teams, than their former teams. In this case, the Jackets are ahead of Philly in the standings and Voracek has made a bigger impact on his new team than Atkinson. FACTS!
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:46 AM ET
Columbus will never make the playoffs with Jake. The guy aint a winner in any way. just look at the teams he has been on his whole career. Take Cam any day over bobby abreau
- hello it's me 2050


Wel right now they are closer to the playoffs than Philly lol....hmmm....who is winning the trade?!
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
Ignore the 46 assists, Joe, you dope
Tocchet2292
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Beaumont, AB
Joined: 09.29.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:41 PM ET
Wel right now they are closer to the playoffs than Philly lol....hmmm....who is winning the trade?!
- PuckPix


One of those trades where it was good for both teams. Philly needed some more goal scoring punch with Atkinson brings, CB needed a playmaker and Jake brings it. I love Jake, happy he is doing well there. Both teams going through some challenges to get back into contention.
drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Apr 7 @ 2:35 PM ET
EVERYBODY JUST CALM DOWN!
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Apr 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
Zak MacMillan: The Winner of the Cam Atkinson for Jakub Voracek Deal is Clearly Columbus
- Zak MacMillan


Can't say that I agree with the take. Cam at 2.5 mil less AAV, with an extra year, seems like the much better side of the deal to me as an outsider.
Zak MacMillan
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Joined: 09.21.2015

Apr 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
Love the feedback and heat everyone is bringing. By no means am I a Flyers hater; I grew up with the Forsberg and Gagne roster through the Richards and Carter cup finals. Voracek was an Elite Flyers member as much as Atkinson is a legend in Columbus. The roles they feel work for the team. But based on one year, the standings are doing the talking. Injuries are not an excuse. Columbus and Philadelphia have been both hurt squads this year. Maybe next year it’s a different talk? But after one season and two games against each other of 3, Columbus won the trade and the games.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
So you would tell Adam Oates in his hey day that he was useless for having far more assists than goals. I think you might be the hack with your comment. Players are more valuable to other teams, than their former teams. In this case, the Jackets are ahead of Philly in the standings and Voracek has made a bigger impact on his new team than Atkinson. FACTS!
- PuckPix


Adam Oates is one of the best playmakers in hockey history and is a HHOFer. Voracek is a very good playermaker, not exactly HHOF material. Also, Adam Oates never scored less than 22 goals in his prime (save for the 2 seasons he missed significant time due to injuries and the lockout season). But keep going, great comparison.
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 7 @ 6:32 PM ET
100% with you on this one
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 7 @ 7:34 PM ET
Adam Oates is one of the best playmakers in hockey history and is a HHOFer. Voracek is a very good playermaker, not exactly HHOF material. Also, Adam Oates never scored less than 22 goals in his prime (save for the 2 seasons he missed significant time due to injuries and the lockout season). But keep going, great comparison.
- jmatchett383



In reality Flyers would be no better with Jake as they are with Atkinson and the shake up in the locker room was thought to be needed (though I think Jake was important to the team chemistry) I have no issues with Cam as I love his energy and game and he has been one of the few highlights to this season, but Jake has held his own well in Columbus and deserves credit for it
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Apr 8 @ 8:58 AM ET
First nice spelling. It's Rasmus Ristolainen.
Second....their stats...

Cam: 71gp, 23g (first on Flyers), 27a, 50 points (first on Flyers), +1, 10 pims

Jake: 69gp, 5g, 46a( first on BJ's),51points, -12, 44 pims

So for the millions more, Voracek has more assists. Seeing as you view the BJ's as the better team, his +/- is worse than Atkinsons, and he takes more penalties. Columbus as a team is -33.

Cam leads his new team in goals, points, and is top 5 for +\- on a team that is -66.

I'm sorry...nice of you to go with the homer view, but the numbers say differently.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 8 @ 9:05 AM ET
First nice spelling. It's Rasmus Ristolainen.
Second....their stats...

Cam: 71gp, 23g (first on Flyers), 27a, 50 points (first on Flyers), +1, 10 pims

Jake: 69gp, 5g, 46a( first on BJ's),51points, -12, 44 pims

So for the millions more, Voracek has more assists. Seeing as you view the BJ's as the better team, his +/- is worse than Atkinsons, and he takes more penalties. Columbus as a team is -33.

Cam leads his new team in goals, points, and is top 5 for +\- on a team that is -66.

I'm sorry...nice of you to go with the homer view, but the numbers say differently.

- TheFreak

0 pts and a -6 since G was sacrificed for Fletcher's incompetence
GStone
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 8 @ 9:59 AM ET
For a team that thought they were contending, this seems to be a full call of weakness.

What does this even mean? Did you go to the Sam Woo school of journalism?