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Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: 07.01.2007
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Well, there's always next year. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
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Location: Imma Luigi, #1!, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Well, there's always next year.  - Pacificgem
You don’t know that. |
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systemtool
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Go Leafs Go baby...season can't end soon enough. As well as the arrival of 20° C days |
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systemtool
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Well, there's always next year.  - Pacificgem
And the year after that! |
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Whipper
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Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB Joined: 07.04.2006
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And the year after that! - systemtool
Yes, the window is wide open. |
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Skalapy
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Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC Joined: 07.11.2006
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another pooneless year 🤦🏿♂️😭 |
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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Laughton and Carlo make the Leafs better however they didn't get the best players or the best value for what they gave up.
The prospects and the draft picks don't matter as much at this stage of their "window of opportunity" however the Leafs now have almost nothing left to trade to make their team stronger.
The Leafs really badly needed a Parayko type (hitter, with a PP slap shot) more than Carlo. And the assets they just gave up no longer exist to make that type of trade happen. Carlo is an improvement just not a big enough of one.
Laughton isn't good enough to replace Tavares going forward as the 2C and his 3C abilities are rather questionable. He seems more of a LW than a C with his FOs being under 50% and he's on the ice for a lot of EVGA. He's a hometown kid who throws hits but he gives the puck away a lot more than he takes it away. He kills some penalties. He's going to have to prove he's a lot better than he's shown the last couple of years. Feels like a bigger version of Domi which is not horrible but not great either.
They have to hope they can make some noise in the playoffs and then maybe sign Ekblad as a UFA because it seems as though Florida went all in for this year and will use Jones as a cheaper replacement going forward.
The question also has to be asked, "Why didn't Treliving acquire Rantanen from Colorado?". If he was willing to give up the entire farm and give him an extension why did he ever get traded to Carolina in the first place? Isn't Treliving supposed to be the GM who calls every GM constantly to listen to everybody?
This deadline was a C+ relative to what we gave up, what we acquired and what our direct competitors did. I see Florida as the A+ winner of the deadline, taking their already Cup winning team and added Jones, Marchand and Sturm. That's a top tier improvement for selling the farm. |
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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This deadline was a C+ relative to what we gave up, what we acquired and what our direct competitors did. I see Florida as the A+ winner of the deadline, taking their already Cup winning team and added Jones, Marchand and Sturm. That's a top tier improvement for selling the farm. - Rare_Jewel
Good, now (frank) off and post your crap on the Panthers blog. You should fit right in.
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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Good, now (frank) off and post your crap on the Panthers blog. You should fit right in. - winsix
Nah. |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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Laughton and Carlo make the Leafs better however they didn't get the best players or the best value for what they gave up.
The prospects and the draft picks don't matter as much at this stage of their "window of opportunity" however the Leafs now have almost nothing left to trade to make their team stronger.
The Leafs really badly needed a Parayko type (hitter, with a PP slap shot) more than Carlo. And the assets they just gave up no longer exist to make that type of trade happen. Carlo is an improvement just not a big enough of one.
Laughton isn't good enough to replace Tavares going forward as the 2C and his 3C abilities are rather questionable. He seems more of a LW than a C with his FOs being under 50% and he's on the ice for a lot of EVGA. He's a hometown kid who throws hits but he gives the puck away a lot more than he takes it away. He kills some penalties. He's going to have to prove he's a lot better than he's shown the last couple of years. Feels like a bigger version of Domi which is not horrible but not great either.
They have to hope they can make some noise in the playoffs and then maybe sign Ekblad as a UFA because it seems as though Florida went all in for this year and will use Jones as a cheaper replacement going forward.
The question also has to be asked, "Why didn't Treliving acquire Rantanen from Colorado?". If he was willing to give up the entire farm and give him an extension why did he ever get traded to Carolina in the first place? Isn't Treliving supposed to be the GM who calls every GM constantly to listen to everybody?
This deadline was a C+ relative to what we gave up, what we acquired and what our direct competitors did. I see Florida as the A+ winner of the deadline, taking their already Cup winning team and added Jones, Marchand and Sturm. That's a top tier improvement for selling the farm. - Rare_Jewel
Who would we have traded that would be equal to Necas? I don’t think Colorado wanted futures. |
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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Who would we have traded that would be equal to Necas? I don’t think Colorado wanted futures. - shack67
As big of a price as it would have been, Knies.
I really like Knies but he's a pending RFA in for a raise between 6-8 AAV.
If you're getting back a 100 point, playoff beast and Cup winner, I think it's justified.
Then allows the Leafs to use the rest of the farm to acquire the rest of the depth pieces they required.
Something like this...
Tavares / Matthews / Marner
Domi / Rantanen / Nylander
McMann / Sturm / Tanev
Lorenz / Jarnkrok / Robertson
Rielly / Parayko
OEL / Tanev
McCabe / Schenn |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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As big of a price as it would have been, Knies.
I really like Knies but he's a pending RFA in for a raise between 6-8 AAV.
If you're getting back a 100 point, playoff beast and Cup winner, I think it's justified.
Then allows the Leafs to use the rest of the farm to acquire the rest of the depth pieces they required.
Something like this...
Tavares / Matthews / Marner
Domi / Rantanen / Nylander
McMann / Sturm / Tanev
Lorenz / Jarnkrok / Robertson
Rielly / Parayko
OEL / Tanev
McCabe / Schenn - Rare_Jewel
I don’t think the Avs would take Knies over Necas. There’s a huge difference in production between the two. |
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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I don’t think the Avs would take Knies over Necas. There’s a huge difference in production between the two. - shack67
Knies is younger, cheaper, more goals this year and plays a more physical style.
Difference is not huge at all, just different types of players at different points of their career. Necas is more of a passing player whereas Knies drives the net and makes space. Both have value in different ways. |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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Knies is younger, cheaper, more goals this year and plays a more physical style.
Difference is not huge at all, just different types of players at different points of their career. Necas is more of a passing player whereas Knies drives the net and makes space. Both have value in different ways. - Rare_Jewel
You don’t have to sell me on Knies, but Necas is a very good player. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I don’t think the Avs would take Knies over Necas. There’s a huge difference in production between the two. - shack67
Moving Knies means you move him for the ability to replace Rantanen for Marner next year. I also don’t think I’ve seen an explanation as to how we would fit Rantanen in under the cap this year. |
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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You don’t have to sell me on Knies, but Necas is a very good player. - shack67
He's also 26. Knies is 22. In 4 years, Knies could be a 40 goal power forward every team wants and desires. I think Knies compliments MacKinnon way better than Necas too.
Point is, it's not like the Leafs would be offering Dewar and Timmins. They could have come up with something. Just don't think Treliving has his ear to the ground as much as people think he does. |
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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As big of a price as it would have been, Knies.
I really like Knies but he's a pending RFA in for a raise between 6-8 AAV.
If you're getting back a 100 point, playoff beast and Cup winner, I think it's justified.
Then allows the Leafs to use the rest of the farm to acquire the rest of the depth pieces they required.
Something like this...
Tavares / Matthews / Marner
Domi / Rantanen / Nylander
McMann / Sturm / Tanev
Lorenz / Jarnkrok / Robertson
Rielly / Parayko
OEL / Tanev
McCabe / Schenn - Rare_Jewel
Since when was Rantanen a Center? |
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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Moving Knies means you move him for the ability to replace Rantanen for Marner next year. I also don’t think I’ve seen an explanation as to how we would fit Rantanen in under the cap this year? - Canada Cup
Rantanen was making 4 something AAV. You dump Jarnkrok and Kampf.
Next year, you sign both Marner and Rantanen to matching extensions and let Tavares walk as a UFA.
Problem solved. |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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Moving Knies means you move him for the ability to replace Rantanen for Marner next year. I also don’t think I’ve seen an explanation as to how we would fit Rantanen in under the cap this year. - Canada Cup
I wonder how Marner feels right now. It seems like the Leafs did all they could do to trade for his replacement. |
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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Since when was Rantanen a Center? - TurdFergeson
He's 53% at FOs this year, has taken 1,600+ FO over the past 5 years at over 50%.
He can play C. You just didn't have a clue he could. |
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Rare_Jewel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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I wonder how Marner feels right now. It seems like the Leafs did all they could do to trade for his replacement. - shack67
Or they did everything they could to add a Cup winning 100 point player.
If they got another 50 goal scorer, don't think Matthews would mind either. |
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GalacticStone
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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From the previous thread :
Bold prediction there Cotton.
You typed all that poop out to only then hit us all with a "ah duh" prediction.
Come on GS, something more like this...especially after typing a small novel....
Prediction: Leafs win the division and then go on to destroy every team they face in the playoffs, Carlo and Laughton were the perfect additions, Matthews and Marner found their playoff balls and the whole team gels together perfectly to win their first Stanley Cup in 57 years.
Booh Ya!!!! - underhill14
Just for your Hillsie!
Prediction of the heart : Leafs #1, Florida #2, and Bolts #3. Florida and Tampa beat the hell out of each other for 7 overtime games and the Leafs pounce on and destroy the banged up team that emerges. They coast to the Final and make that deep run they desperately need to deliver.
Prediction of the brain : Florida #1, Leafs #2, Bolts #3. Leafs and Bolts batter each other for 7 games and the Leafs emerge victorious after Tanev lays the boom down on Ducherov in game one and takes him out of the series. Knies makes life hard on Vasi and Vasi gets frustrated and spears him, takes a match penalty and gets thrown out of his "dialed in" zone. Leafs win and they go on to fight face-licker Marchand and the new Legion of Doom line of TkaUpchuk - Let Off Some Steam Bennett - Facelicker McGee. Epic tragedy or glory results, depending on how much the Core 4 steps up to the big moment and Stoli holds down the fort.
Ok, who are we kidding, they are both predictions of the heart. |
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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He's 53% at FOs this year, has taken 1,600+ FO over the past 5 years at over 50%.
He can play C. You just didn't have a clue he could. - Rare_Jewel
Lots of wingers take face offs. There is far more to being a C than taking face offs.
Your other new 3C is terrible at face offs and has played almost exclusively wing. Yet Toronto media are pushing him as an ideal 3C. |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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Or they did everything they could to add a Cup winning 100 point player.
If they got another 50 goal scorer, don't think Matthews would mind either. - Rare_Jewel
I’m not arguing with you, I wanted them to get Rants yesterday. But I think Marner would be walking in free agency. |
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