James Tanner: Can Clayton Keller Be the Player We Need Him to Be?

Points per 60 is a useless stat

What have you done with James Tanner? What is this semi reasonable talk you’re spewing and why are you looking at a yotes player in a subjective light?

60 points max. That’s who he is

Best article in a while James. Actually a decent hockey piece.

I expect Keller to rebound. I see him as a good 2nd line guy. 20 goals, 60 points. I see him hitting the 60 point mark, and if any talent around him can elevate things, possibly high 60's or 70.

The difference maker is whether he'll go into traffic like he did in his rookie season or whether he'll shy away from traffic and look for the easy play like he did last year.

What have you done with James Tanner? What is this semi reasonable talk you’re spewing and why are you looking at a yotes player in a subjective light?

60 points max. That’s who he is
- halo63

I think a 60+ rookie season without inflated shooting percentages (or even positive possession stats) makes a case for a much higher ceiling.

One of your better blogs Tanner. The team was a mess from injuries last year just all over the roster. The D weren’t driving much offense this past season.

I’ve seen you say before that this team didn’t have snipers last year. From watching them play it actually looks like the opposite: they don’t have enough playmakers. This team didn’t have guys creating enough time and space with their abilities to create solid offensive opportunities. Being healthy and adding a talented player like Phil will help

I think a 60+ rookie season without inflated shooting percentages (or even positive possession stats) makes a case for a much higher ceiling.
- James_Tanner

I think it just depends on which Keller shows up. At times he’s more in the middle of the play and creating opportunities like Kane but last season he was on the perimeter a ton. Merely showing flashes of his rookie campaign

I think they’ll basically have two second lines comprised of Soderberg, Schmaltz and Vinnie on one and Keller, Kessel and either Stepan or Dvorak in the middle. We’ll see if either can seize the opportunity

First comments here, but been reading since a year, hi to everyone :D

i watched almost every coyotes games last year, what didnt help first i think was the coyotes didnt know alex galchenyuk wasnt a real center and pairing him for like 10 games didnt help him at all. 2nd, i think he is more a playmaker and likes topass the puck but when you give the puck to someones who doesnt know what to do with it then it goes bluhhh. I saw Less confidence last year when he was taking wrist shot while chewing his mouthpiece without looking at the goalies it happened a lot less was always trying to find someone to give the puck to. Playing on the second line way more often than his rookies year that he was always with stepan on first (stepan did slow down last year) so even playing with him was quite hard. doesnt need to own a Bac in rocket sciences that Playing with nick schmaltz was prolly where he was at his best.

Best scenario is playing on the first line LW with schmaltz and kessel

I would like to see Barett hayton make the roster this year, he should be the real 2nd center of this team this year and aiming toward being #1 and having schmaltz #2 in the future

what you guys think ?

I also forgot to say that, when gelchenyuk got injured, they tried to make keller play center a while with no good lw/rw which didnt work out at all

and so many 0to1 goal games last year i can defintly spot 15 game wheres keller was not used properlly or pairing properly

2nd year is always bad for every rookies
dont forget his gonna be 21 this year
thinking a 70 pts season this year is far from being unrealistic i do expect a come back better than his rookie year :D

He was just lucky in his 1st year.

Points per 60 is a useless stat

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Points per 60 is a useless stat

Support your position using factual statements and examples.
- Za Warudo

points matter. not points per 60.
a 30 point scorer is just that. no one cares what his points per 60 is

Points per 60 is a useless stat
- daryl stanley

It’s probably the most important stat, especially with players known for offence

He was just lucky in his 1st year.
- Garnie

sorry, i forgot ,pulling more points than marner first rookie season is impossible

points matter. not points per 60.
a 30 point scorer is just that. no one cares what his points per 60 is
- daryl stanley

That is not an argument. Points per sixty is used by a LOT of analytics.

sorry, i forgot ,pulling more points than marner first rookie season is impossible
- tankorr

Luck is everything, Marner was lucky too.

points matter. not points per 60.
a 30 point scorer is just that. no one cares what his points per 60 is
- daryl stanley

This is a terrible argument. Points per 60 is a good indicator stat.

Let’s say you have a few players and they all put up 30 points at even strength and don’t PK, play powerplay, or drive play a ton:

One does it in 30 games playing 16 minutes a game but breaks his leg and is done for the year

One does it in 82 games playing 16 minutes a game which indicates top 6 minutes

One does it in 82 games playing 8 minutes a game which indicates likely a 4th liner

All players are 27 year old UFAs. Based off that year of production, who is most likely going to command the most salary (salaries being based off value, duh)? Based on their production, who would you pay the most? Because if it’s me I’m looking hardest at the guy who broke his leg and then trying to steal away the 4th liner if I can. Why? They have the best points per 60 with all other things being equal

points matter. not points per 60.
a 30 point scorer is just that. no one cares what his points per 60 is
- daryl stanley

Yeah its not like the two are correlated

James Tanner: Can Clayton Keller Be the Player We Need Him to Be?
- James_Tanner

I expect him to be the player you deserve, but not what you need right now.