Eklund
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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I actually agree withy Ek on this one...
*surprise face*
Teams will adjust and start to chip it out instead. We tried this we need 12-8 games for it to be exciting BS and it hasn't happened yet. |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I feel like teams will ice it anyway and take the faceoffs...over and over and over again if they have to. |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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Ding Ding Ding Take note people, It's a first! I actually agree with EK and that would be sad to change the rule and it is not happening anyway. |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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I feel like teams will ice it anyway and take the faceoffs...over and over and over again if they have to. - MBFlyerfan
Agreed and that would be boring as hell on a power play. It is exciting after a clear when the teams best players go back and pick up the puck and begin a new rush. Can you imagine an icing and then a faceoff, unless your a raving alcoholic and need the break to grab another beer this is a terrible idea
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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ssullivan28
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Antioch, CA Joined: 10.01.2006
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I definitely agree with Ek. It would be way to disruptive to the game.
I'd rather (for select penalties; hooking, holding the stick, slashing, etc...) that they force the PK to last the full 2 minutes regardless if the team on the power play scores. |
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Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.03.2018
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There is no need to change it. Start letting the goalie play the puck anywhere on the ice also. One penalty =one reward. |
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rangerbluelou
New York Rangers |
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Location: Boca Raton, FL Joined: 06.20.2011
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Hate to agree with EK on anything but this is a ridiculous idea. How did this dumbass become a GM? |
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MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers |
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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I coach U14 hockey and USA hockey recently made this a rule. Honestly it's annoying especially with regards to stoppages. I have players that can beat opposing defenders to the puck if we dump it on a PK and could likely turn that into scoring opportunities. Now, we're not able to use that unless we get it past the red line. We have the perk of changing lines on an icing, NHL not so much so you'll see a lot more goals, stick infractions or delay of game calls (puck over glass) as players get tired |
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James-TFS
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: St George, ON Joined: 07.24.2017
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This is such a 2020 answer. Your kid is bad so they get grounded but you feel bad grounding them so you give them ice cream, what a bunch of crap. If a team breaks the rules and is penalized, they shouldn’t suddenly be allowed to break another rule to balance things out. The point of a power play is to punish the team for breaking the rules, but if the PK team has the advantage, what kind of punishment is that. If anything, the team on the PP should be allowed to ice the puck, give them the advantage. The rules should be called no matter what the situation, time of game, or time of season *cough*playoffs*cough* |
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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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Ek once again has shown that he has a great mind for the game. He nailed this. The only thing I would add is that if you take away icings then the PK units will adapt and start to just freeze the puck on the boards (that's exciting) or accidentally fall on the puck (oh looks like the puck is lost in Kris Russell's equipment again). Boring.
Do you know what else is boring? We have a delayed penalty, the team pulls their goalie, they enter the zone, and the whistle blows as soon as the defending team touches the puck. Boring. Make the defending team do more than get a random stick on a pass. You guys have to advance the puck out of the zone. So if you get the puck, you have to get it out of your zone. So if you rim it around the boards and the offensive team keeps it in, they keep attacking 6-on-5. That would lead to more goals with a delayed penalty. Currently a goal scored is pretty rare.
There. A free idea for you Ek.
Any update on Hoffman? Are the Oilers still talking to Haula? |
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TommyGTrain
New York Rangers |
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Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll Joined: 05.19.2017
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I definitely agree with Ek. It would be way to disruptive to the game.
I'd rather (for select penalties; hooking, holding the stick, slashing, etc...) that they force the PK to last the full 2 minutes regardless if the team on the power play scores. - ssullivan28
I believe any penalty involving the striking of the head should last the full 2 or 4 mins on the PP. Cross checking, high stick, roughing etc. you serve the full time. NHL wants to discourage head shots --- this would be a good start... |
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--Lamp--
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Seattle Joined: 08.02.2013
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There's already too many whistles and challenge delays. Adding more whistles is going to make games worse to watch.
Also, ditch the puck-over-glass penalty. It sucks.
I definitely agree with Ek and also your desire not to introduce more whistles and delays.
However, I don't understand why you'd want to get rid of the over-the-glass penalty. That penalty is designed to reduce delays, since before the penalty, teams regularly just threw the puck over the glass at any hint of danger. (penalty kill or not) Seems inconsistent to say that you don't want delays, but then remove the penalty that prevents delays. |
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James-TFS
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: St George, ON Joined: 07.24.2017
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After discussing this with a friend and former pro, I have changed my opinion. The point of the ability to ice the puck is to take away the amount of advantage the power play is. The power play is still an advantage but if you take away the ability to ice the puck, the team on the PK would get penned in and tired and either get scored on, or end up taking another penalty. If power plays got up to 50/60/70% (which might happen if you can’t ice the puck), a penalty would almost be equal to a goal, which is a massive advantage.
It was said earlier and I agree, if you want to change it, make it the full two minutes but you can’t away the ability to ice the puck. |
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Hatt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.06.2020
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I believe there should be icings allowed but the two minutes should be served, even if a goal scored. Also when there is a penalty being called, the goalie comes out and a goal is scored that penalty still should be called and served. You can pull a goalie whenever you want and a goal still can count, with a bad bounce, with a goalie out, on a delayed penalty.
I wouldn’t mind seeing offsides only being called once the zone is broken as a rule change either. I think that would definitely open up the ice and create offence against the trap. |
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Cimo
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Canada, BC Joined: 01.14.2008
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I agree with Ek.
I'll even go a little further: On a delayed penalty, the team receiving the penalty does not only need to touch (or get control of) the puck, they also need to clear it out of their defensive zone. This would result in potential prolonged 6-vs 5 (and in some cases 6 vs 4) scenarios. |
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Lord I miss Fantasy Hockey right now!
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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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I agree with Ek.
I'll even go a little further: On a delayed penalty, the team receiving the penalty does not only need to touch (or get control of) the puck, they also need to clear it out of their defensive zone. This would result in potential prolonged 6-vs 5 (and in some cases 6 vs 4) scenarios. - Cimo
I just wrote this. Glad you are jumping on board with my idea.
As for the puck over the glass, it's pretty simple. You get to do it once per game. After that its a penalty. So when it's game 7 and you truly do it by accident, then it isn't an automatic penalty that refs have to call. That's your free one. Do it again and its a penalty. |
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WayneZ
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Yay we're relevant again, VA Joined: 01.28.2008
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The good news is the way things are going it sounds like we'll have till October of 2021 to discuss the potential pros and cons of this rule change. |
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Cimo
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Canada, BC Joined: 01.14.2008
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I just wrote this. Glad you are jumping on board with my idea.
As for the puck over the glass, it's pretty simple. You get to do it once per game. After that its a penalty. So when it's game 7 and you truly do it by accident, then it isn't an automatic penalty that refs have to call. That's your free one. Do it again and its a penalty. - Kooleus
Beat me to it!! |
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I coach U14 hockey and USA hockey recently made this a rule. Honestly it's annoying especially with regards to stoppages. I have players that can beat opposing defenders to the puck if we dump it on a PK and could likely turn that into scoring opportunities. Now, we're not able to use that unless we get it past the red line. We have the perk of changing lines on an icing, NHL not so much so you'll see a lot more goals, stick infractions or delay of game calls (puck over glass) as players get tired - MeltingPlastic
Funny, I coach U14 too and totally agree with you. I primarily run the defense and my players hate not being able to ice it during the penalty kill. I think it's even harder on the forwards.
My general preference is for the kids to play with the rules as similar as possible to the NHL because that's what they see. The tolerances for many penalties is different and that's fine. |
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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gävle, Sweden Joined: 07.15.2014
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Allen had Sens as a Stanley Cup contender in 2 years! No wonder he got the pink slip at USA Today |
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Devils622
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NY Joined: 08.31.2006
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No need to change. Adding 20 face-offs a game will just slow the game down. Get rid of the trapezoid. Get rid of the shootout. If you must keep the shootout change the scoring to 3 pts for a regulation win so all games are worth the same amount.
The thing I would add would be giving the team a choice between a penalty shot or power play if:
1) the penalty would have been deemed a penalty shot, or
2) the last 2 minutes of the game/OT. |
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