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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sunday @ 11:34 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Wheels Fall off in 2nd Period of 7-3 Loss
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Monday @ 12:17 AM ET
Andreoff was a meathead as usual I bet he fits In well In Philly.
Chief Ninja Cat
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.03.2017

Monday @ 12:24 AM ET
Any chance we see Wisdom get a game this week?
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Monday @ 12:49 AM ET
Andreoff was a meathead as usual I bet he fits In well In Philly.
- Shady1962


No one is clamoring for Andreoff and most probably forgot he was still on the roster. What an idiotic post.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Monday @ 2:12 AM ET
Hart was off from the beginning. No wheels was falling off
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Monday @ 6:20 AM ET
Andreoff was a meathead as usual I bet he fits In well In Philly.
- Shady1962


Love it when trolls like slim shady here crawl out from under rocks to demonstrate how idiotic they are..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Monday @ 7:03 AM ET
Knew Boston was the better team before this game. Flyers have a depleted lineup and Hart didn't play well. Chalk it up as one loss and move on. Concerned about Hart though. He has had a disappointing season to this point.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Monday @ 7:07 AM ET
Knew Boston was the better team before this game. Flyers have a depleted lineup and Hart didn't play well. Chalk it up as one loss and move on. Concerned about Hart though. He has had a disappointing season to this point.
- MJL


What I saw last night from
Him is that after the early goal he seemed to be playing a bit too far back in his net. That’s a telltale sign that confidence is low.

I’m sure it didn’t help that pasta scores 30 secs into the game. It’s all related. Better team d allows goalie to build confidence.. confident goalie plays better and breeds stronger overall team d.

Hart hasn’t been as good this year, but neither has our team d.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Monday @ 7:15 AM ET
Great write-up, as usual, Bill.

Not at all hanging last night’s loss solely on Hart (there seemed to be a lack of urgency in nearly every skater’s game), but do you think it could help Hart to sit the next two games and give Elliott the crease? If nothing else but to give the kid additional time let his back heal. Any outdoor game is an outlier in terms of backdrop, especially for goalies (sun, etc.). This loss was not on Carter. I just think a couple of days rest could be beneficial in the long run.

And Covid cases or no Covid cases...this team needs a legit scorer. Period.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Monday @ 7:16 AM ET
Knew Boston was the better team before this game. Flyers have a depleted lineup and Hart didn't play well. Chalk it up as one loss and move on. Concerned about Hart though. He has had a disappointing season to this point.
- MJL

Didn’t get to see much of the game. What did Andreoff do that had someone complaining in the thread
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Monday @ 7:18 AM ET
Knew Boston was the better team before this game. Flyers have a depleted lineup and Hart didn't play well. Chalk it up as one loss and move on. Concerned about Hart though. He has had a disappointing season to this point.
- MJL


With the exception of the teamwide debacle in the first game against Buffalo, Hart has been fine against the rest of the East apart. He's got a .919 save percent against every team but Boston.

Even the OTL at home against Boston was not a goaltending issue. He was not good in either blowout loss, obviously. In the shootout loss in the first game in Boston, he took a shutout into the third period before giving up four goals, of which one -- Coyle's goal that tied the game at 2-2 -- was seemingly stoppable.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Monday @ 7:20 AM ET
Great write-up, as usual, Bill.

Not at all hanging last night’s loss solely on Hart (there seemed to be a lack of urgency in nearly every skater’s game), but do you think it could help Hart to sit the next two games and give Elliott the crease? If nothing else but to give the kid additional time let his back heal. Any outdoor game is an outlier in terms of backdrop, especially for goalies (sun, etc.). This loss was not on Carter. I just think a couple of days rest could be beneficial in the long run.

And Covid cases or no Covid cases...this team needs a legit scorer. Period.

- BroadSTmayhem


No, I wouldn't sit Hart for two games. In fact, I'd go right back with him against the Rangers on Wed and then split the two games in Buffalo between him and Elliott.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Monday @ 7:23 AM ET
Great write-up, as usual, Bill.

Not at all hanging last night’s loss solely on Hart (there seemed to be a lack of urgency in nearly every skater’s game), but do you think it could help Hart to sit the next two games and give Elliott the crease? If nothing else but to give the kid additional time let his back heal. Any outdoor game is an outlier in terms of backdrop, especially for goalies (sun, etc.). This loss was not on Carter. I just think a couple of days rest could be beneficial in the long run.

And Covid cases or no Covid cases...this team needs a legit scorer. Period.

- BroadSTmayhem


I posted this yesterday, but we can’t discount the fact that they’ve had basically no practice time. That really hurts tenders. At the end of the day, hart didn’t play well in this game. I’d be ok with giving him a couple games off to let him practice and re set. I think he’ll be fine.

This last two weeks have been a debacle for the team. I hope they can get the regulars back, and start to get into a groove.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Monday @ 7:31 AM ET
Well, this was not a surprise at all. I hope the league was happy to have most viewers turning off the game by the 2nd period. The Flyers should have NEVER BEEN FORCED to play this game!!

However, there are some big concerns here for this team. First and foremost, Carter Hart is regressing, there is no other way to put it. Granted he has been under siege for most of the season with the Flyers giving up the 2nd most shots in the league, but he has not helped his team with big saves either. His shootout performance against the Rangers being a prime example.

Secondly this team just won't SHOOT THE PUCK!! Last night the Flyers had a BIG advantage in the 1st period with the sun setting directly in Tuukka Rask's eyes and they only managed 11 shots on goal. What is worse is the Flyers only managed 5 shots over the next 30 minutes of the game. There are simply too many passengers in this forward group, players looking for the pretty play versus just getting pucks to the net. Hayes, who I have been a fan of, is one of the biggest offenders!

Thirdly the Flyers are getting a lot of their shots blocked, and its not just against the Bruins, most teams the Flyers have played this season are having a easy time blocking shots. The Flyers apparently do not have players that know how to get pucks through!

Finally, Provorov is not playing like a top defenseman in this league, and that is a big problem for this team. For example last night's first Bruins goal, Provorov has got to take away that pass to Pastrnak and let Hart handle Marchand coming down the wing. But Provorov flinched allowing Marchand to make a pretty pass for an easy goal. Of course a turnover at the Bruins blue line started the play, but the Flyers need their top defenseman to make a play there and he didn't, and this is not the first time I have seen this from him this season.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Monday @ 7:34 AM ET
Any chance we see Wisdom get a game this week?
- Chief Ninja Cat

Come on .. really?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Monday @ 7:36 AM ET
Well, this was not a surprise at all. I hope the league was happy to have most viewers turning off the game by the 2nd period. The Flyers should have NEVER BEEN FORCED to play this game!!

However, there are some big concerns here for this team. First and foremost, Carter Hart is regressing, there is no other way to put it. Granted he has been under siege for most of the season with the Flyers giving up the 2nd most shots in the league, but he has not helped his team with big saves either. His shootout performance against the Rangers being a prime example.

Secondly this team just won't SHOOT THE PUCK!! Last night the Flyers had a BIG advantage in the 1st period with the sun setting directly in Tuukka Rask's eyes and they only managed 11 shots on goal. What is worse is the Flyers only managed 5 shots over the next 30 minutes of the game. There are simply too many passengers in this forward group, players looking for the pretty play versus just getting pucks to the net. Hayes, who I have been a fan of, is one of the biggest offenders!

Thirdly the Flyers are getting a lot of their shots blocked, and its not just against the Bruins, most teams the Flyers have played this season are having a easy time blocking shots. The Flyers apparently do not have players that know how to get pucks through!

Finally, Provorov is not playing like a top defenseman in this league, and that is a big problem for this team. For example last night's first Bruins goal, Provorov has got to take away that pass to Pastrnak and let Hart handle Marchand coming down the wing. But Provorov flinched allowing Marchand to make a pretty pass for an easy goal. Of course a turnover at the Bruins blue line started the play, but the Flyers need their top defenseman to make a play there and he didn't, and this is not the first time I have seen this from him this season.

- jd250



Hart isn't "regressing". He's hit a bump in the road and will need to adapt. It's normal. Against every East team except Boston this year, he is 5-1-1, 2.73 GAA, .919 SV%. That's far from a disaster.




MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Monday @ 7:41 AM ET
I understand fans being unhappy that the Flyers had to play with a depleted lineup. However it's nonsense in saying they shouldn't have played the game. It's no different than if a team had a slew of injuries.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Monday @ 7:50 AM ET
Gary Bettmans fixation on the sun belt is just ridiculous.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Monday @ 7:51 AM ET
Bruins top line versus Flyers this year:

GP G A Pts +/-
Brad Marchand: 5 3 5 8 6
David Pastrnak: 3 6 2 8 6
Patrice Bergeron: 5 3 6 9 4

The Bruins have scored 23 goals against the Flyers in 5 games this season, and this line has score more than 1/2 of them! As I mentioned early on, if you shutdown the Bruins top line you have a good chance to beat them, but the Flyers have shown thus far that they can't do that! This to me is the number 1 reason Fletcher needs to go get a defenseman like Ekholm! These types of players do not become available that often and thus Fletcher needs to gird his loins and go make a good hockey trade now, otherwise forget this season because the Flyers are not coming out of their division.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Monday @ 7:55 AM ET
Hart isn't "regressing". He's hit a bump in the road and will need to adapt. It's normal. Against every East team except Boston this year, he is 5-1-1, 2.73 GAA, .919 SV%. That's far from a disaster.
- bmeltzer

Ok, I never said he was a disaster. I said he was regressing in my opinion. I don't care what the stats say against certain teams, my eyes are telling me he is allowing a lot of goals that he should be stopping. The Flyers have a lot of defensive problems granted, but Carter Hart has to be better if this team is going anywhere this season. Any goalie can have great stats when they face only 22 shots a game. However great goalies play great even when they are getting 40 shots against per game. Carter Hart needs to be better!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Monday @ 8:00 AM ET
didn't play well, was back in his net and the goals hit the corners while fluttering. Goalies play angles and odds, top shelf corner will go in more often than not but he does need to be out on the angle
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Monday @ 8:01 AM ET
I understand fans being unhappy that the Flyers had to play with a depleted lineup. However it's nonsense in saying they shouldn't have played the game. It's no different than if a team had a slew of injuries.
- MJL

But honestly, it is different this year with Covid, otherwise there wouldn't be a taxi-squad. Also this game is different, its a special game with the sole purpose of highlighting the NHL, it was not just a run of the mill Tuesday night regular season hockey game. So with this in mind, the Flyers should not have played this game. The casual fan or even new fan is probably asking themselves why the league would showcase this sport with a team with a severely depleted lineup because of Covid? The answer of course is simply, this league is a joke!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Monday @ 8:05 AM ET
They got blown out with Coots acting as defacto captain! They need to strip it from him and give it to someone else.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Monday @ 8:05 AM ET
They got blown out with Coots acting as defacto captain! They need to strip it from him and give it to someone else.
- ClaudeFather



maybe trade him for a couple picks
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Monday @ 8:10 AM ET
maybe trade him for a couple picks
- wcorvette

A 3rd and a conditional 2nd the following year.
It’ll turn into a 1st if he plays at least 75% of the games, or 70% but they make the playoffs.
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