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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
Carol Schram: Thoughts on Jake Virtanen, Danton Heinen — and Nikita Tryamkin Saturday's rumour mill was churning with talk that the Canucks and Ducks were working on a trade involving Jake Virtanen and Danton Heinen. It's tough to make the money and cap hit work for both sides. Could Nikita Tryamkin be the answer?
Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Thanks Carol, I'd be happy to have Tree back providing he's matured, and Jim Benning won't be here much longer so Tryamkin might be more open to signing in Vancouver
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
It’s nice to see Gadjovich, Lind, Rathbone having some early success this year. Maybe those first 2 can push next year for bottom 6 roles. Lind is going to be a good one.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
@1944

I try to keep in mind that the AHL is playing at limited skill because of the Taxi Squads but I do ask myself could Gadjovich be worse than Roussel? Jake has one goal and hits no one so couldn't Lind do that also?

Jasek Lockwood Gadj and Lind are all going to be at least three years removed from their draft year next year so why not look at them?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Vegas isn’t handing a divisional rival a top pairing dman - CanuckDon. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
Thank's Carol,

I'm anxious to see JB's negotiating acumen during these trade talks.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:43 PM ET
Thanks Carol

I think that Heinen is the type of player that TG would like in his bottom 6. Now only if the Canucks could change out another 2-3 more bottom 6 players. They might look mid table respectable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:43 PM ET
@Vintsy

I hope they go a different route than Edler next year .
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
@1944

I try to keep in mind that the AHL is playing at limited skill because of the Taxi Squads but I do ask myself could Gadjovich be worse than Roussel? Jake has one goal and hits no one so couldn't Lind do that also?

Jasek Lockwood Gadj and Lind are all going to be at least three years removed from their draft year next year so why not look at them?

- VANTEL

I did respond to your comment in the last blog. You can go back and see if you like.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

Where did this Jake Virtanen go to?


- Pacificgem


Yes, seeing that is a bit sad that he's just a ghost of himself now.. I think that version is gone for a number of reasons: he's playing against younger/smaller guys there than the NHL, he's usually out of position to make big hits and that doesn't fly as much in the NHL, he got neutered a bit by coaching/that suspension, he doesn't want to put in the effort to make those plays.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
I did respond to your comment in the last blog. You can go back and see if you like.
- manvanfan


I did read it . It was a good comment
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:53 PM ET
Thanks Carol!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
Thank's Carol,

I'm anxious to see JB's negotiating acumen during these trade talks.

- VanHockeyGuy


What happened to Apathy?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Vegas isn’t handing a divisional rival a top pairing dman - CanuckDon. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
What happened to Apathy?

- VANTEL


It's still there, this is merely to validate my position.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
Ashley
@ashleymartin83
·
15h
I bet Corey Perry never thought that one day Alex Burrows would end up being his coach
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Vegas isn’t handing a divisional rival a top pairing dman - CanuckDon. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
Brendan Batchelor
@BatchHockey
·
14s
Lines for the #Canucks today at practice

Pearson-Horvat-Virtanen
Miller-Pettersson-Boeser
Hoglander-Sutter-Gaudette
Roussel-Beagle-MacEwen/Hawryluk
Extra: Michaelis

Edler-Schmidt
Hughes-Hamonic
Benn-Myers
Juolevi-Chatfield

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #narrativetown, USA
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
Thyx Carol!!

1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bite me, BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

Re Tryamkin - he might not be good enough at the hockey to play in the NHL, but with few options, he might be the best one for next season (later this one)

Re Edler - he’s still important to the team but man, 0g, 4a, -5 averaging 20+ min per. Yes, he plays the “hard minutes” but for the $6m or whatever they could do better.

Re Virtanen - just ride it out. Give him an actual opportunity to succeed or fail and if after next season he doesn’t warrant a contract, trade him for a 5th or walk away.[/img]
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #narrativetown, USA
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
@Vintsy

I hope they go a different route than Edler next year .

- VANTEL

Yes. Time to move on. Jets reworked their D around Pionk and Morrisey we can do the same around Hughes/Schmidt. Easy Peasy lol
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bite me, BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
@1944

I try to keep in mind that the AHL is playing at limited skill because of the Taxi Squads but I do ask myself could Gadjovich be worse than Roussel? Jake has one goal and hits no one so couldn't Lind do that also?

Jasek Lockwood Gadj and Lind are all going to be at least three years removed from their draft year next year so why not look at them?

- VANTEL


It’s not apples and apples, but I could be the back up goalie for league minimum, cheer on the guys and let in 7 when I had to play, but would that really help? Ok, let’s be honest, it would probably be 17 but...

So yes, Gajy could be much worse than Rouss
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
Brendan Batchelor
@BatchHockey
·
14s
Lines for the #Canucks today at practice

Pearson-Horvat-Virtanen
Miller-Pettersson-Boeser
Hoglander-Sutter-Gaudette
Roussel-Beagle-MacEwen/Hawryluk
Extra: Michaelis

Edler-Schmidt
Hughes-Hamonic
Benn-Myers
Juolevi-Chatfield


- VanHockeyGuy

Sure, whatever.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
It’s not apples and apples, but I could be the back up goalie for league minimum, cheer on the guys and let in 7 when I had to play, but would that really help? Ok, let’s be honest, it would probably be 17 but...

So yes, Gajy could be much worse than Rouss

- 1970vintage


Interesting, forgot about taxi squads and AHL level being lower.

Still better than them sucking on a lower quality year hahaha
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

Re Tryamkin - he might not be good enough at the hockey to play in the NHL, but with few options, he might be the best one for next season (later this one)

Re Edler - he’s still important to the team but man, 0g, 4a, -5 averaging 20+ min per. Yes, he plays the “hard minutes” but for the $6m or whatever they could do better.

Re Virtanen - just ride it out. Give him an actual opportunity to succeed or fail and if after next season he doesn’t warrant a contract, trade him for a 5th or walk away.

- 1970vintage[/img]


Looks like Franky doesn't want to take money back on the Jake deal.
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bite me, BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 28 @ 3:03 PM ET
Looks like Franky doesn't want to take money back on the Jake deal.
- VANTEL


And yet he’s paying Baertschi to play in Utica, Lui to not play, etc. it he really wanted to save $ he’d have all his one-way guys in Vancouver and send everyone else down.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
And yet he’s paying Baertschi to play in Utica, Lui to not play, etc. it he really wanted to save $ he’d have all his one-way guys in Vancouver and send everyone else down.
- 1970vintage


Your solution is too add more dead money?
Nucker101
Seattle Kraken
Location: Empty The Clip, ME
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
Hopefully the Heinen deal is dead
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