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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 8 @ 11:36 AM ET
Eklund: Stamkos and Kucherov Will BOTH return for Florida Series. Fair?
M*A*S*H
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.05.2006

May 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
On the surface, sure it seems unfair. But TB did not break any rules. If they did, Id like to hear them.
Dewey8
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 10.24.2018

May 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
Cant be upset with a gm that figured out the rules and played the game better than the rest.its manipulation of the rules,but it's still within the rules.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Life w/o Eichel is coming soon to an arena near you, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 8 @ 11:42 AM ET
Eklund: Stamkos and Kucherov Will BOTH return for Florida Series. Fair?
- Eklund

how is florida staying quiet?



traded for bennett
signed gustev
traded for montour



as for what the bolts are doing

rules are rules

maybe a salary cap for playoff roster is needed
Shynes57
Florida Panthers
Joined: 11.12.2019

May 8 @ 11:52 AM ET
You dont play reg season you dont play playoffs. Should be as simple as that
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Grimsby, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
You dont play reg season you dont play playoffs. Should be as simple as that
- Shynes57

Wholeheartedly agree. In fact, you should have to play a % (10?) of regular season games to make it more legit.
currphij
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Airdrie, AB
Joined: 08.25.2013

May 8 @ 12:01 PM ET
The idea behind LTIR, is a player is to be back in the lineup as soon as they are healthy enough to play.

There needs to be a rule for players who miss time from a week or two before the trade deadline, until the end of the season. They should miss first round as a minimum.

The longer you’ve been out of the lineup, the more playoff games you miss, unless you can make it back into the lineup for regular season games between the trade deadline and the end of the regular season. If you play a regular season game, in that time period, you can play in the first round.
Jeterson2
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Flyers Country, PA
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 8 @ 12:07 PM ET
100% needs to be looked at from the rules perspective. Under the current rules, there’s no issue.

If there’s a salary cap for the regular season there should be a cap for the playoffs. There also should be some cutoff/provision for injured players who sit out the whole season (or most of it) and return for the playoffs.

It seems really unfair that Tampa didn’t even have to get rid of Tyler Johnson when they tried so hard and then added Savard. But the rules allow it so kudos to TB.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
how is florida staying quiet?



traded for bennett
signed gustev
traded for montour



as for what the bolts are doing

rules are rules

maybe a salary cap for playoff roster is needed

- homiedclown


staying quiet regarding the Tampa stuff....Zito did a killer job adding...
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

May 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
Don't blame the Lightning because of a league oversight, TB and others have found a loophole and until the league acts on It this Is what you get. Shut up and play!
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 8 @ 12:09 PM ET
The idea behind LTIR, is a player is to be back in the lineup as soon as they are healthy enough to play.

There needs to be a rule for players who miss time from a week or two before the trade deadline, until the end of the season. They should miss first round as a minimum.

The longer you’ve been out of the lineup, the more playoff games you miss, unless you can make it back into the lineup for regular season games between the trade deadline and the end of the regular season. If you play a regular season game, in that time period, you can play in the first round.

- currphij



I like this idea alot
Eklblad
Florida Panthers
Location: Eklblad, AL
Joined: 03.29.2021

May 8 @ 12:17 PM ET
staying quiet regarding the Tampa stuff....Zito did a killer job adding...
- Eklund


bro, after the Rangers public statement debacle, you think GM's/front offices are gonna call out anyone?
smkuchta
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
Vancouver played by the rules when they signed Luongo to a 12 year contract. The NHL approved the contract then years later decided it was unfair and they now have a 3 year re-capture penalty of ~3M/year. Unfortunately Luongo didn't have a career ending "mystery" injury like every other player with a similar contract...i.e. Hossa, Pronger, Seabrook, Zetterberg etc.

Tampa flaunting the rules could be "fixed" retroactively just like the NHL did against Vancouver.
r8edr
Joined: 07.06.2012

May 8 @ 12:41 PM ET
On the surface, sure it seems unfair. But TB did not break any rules. If they did, Id like to hear them.
- M*A*S*H


If either of them are health at this moment and still on LTIR, then they are breaking the rules.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 8 @ 12:43 PM ET
On the surface, sure it seems unfair. But TB did not break any rules. If they did, Id like to hear them.
- M*A*S*H


Yeah good luck. I’m still waiting to hear what rules the Devils broke when they fined them for the Kovalchuck debacle.

This is all just another example of why the league is a joke...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
This all really depends on what version of Kuch they're getting. If comes back strong I don't see how Tampa loses.
tkearle
Boston Bruins
Location: St John's, NF
Joined: 09.18.2005

May 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
Absolutely not fair. Cap should count in the playoffs too. They lied about the players still being injured obviously. Cheaters!
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 8 @ 12:49 PM ET
IMO tax implications are a bigger issue. A player in Flordia making $8m a year is equal to a player making 10.5m in Ontario.

I have a feeling if tax implications favoured Canadian teams - rather than teams in the south where the NHL wants to see more $ like Texas, Florida, and Nevada - things would be addressed right away to balance it out
eagleputter
Montreal Canadiens
Location: HUBBARDS, NS
Joined: 06.25.2015

May 8 @ 1:13 PM ET
I think an investigation needs to be done. Pretty sure it's not legal to have someone that isn't injured on the LTIR. If they find that Tampa did something wrong they should punish them accordingly. using this type of "tricky tactic" a team could simply put a player on the LTIR rather than buy them out.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 8 @ 1:22 PM ET
And in more pressing news, something most of us have been missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiTds6OOg9E
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: We grabbed him by the ballot, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
You dont play reg season you dont play playoffs. Should be as simple as that
- Shynes57


they should definitively review this rule.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
Eklund: Stamkos and Kucherov Will BOTH return for Florida Series. Fair?
- Eklund


Fair? Sure, but it’s just another example of how bush-league the NHL is.
GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

May 8 @ 1:33 PM ET
Meanwhile, Toronto over here with Freddie Amderson all hunched up, whispering, "Nothing to see here. Look away..."
islansjet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 03.13.2017

May 8 @ 1:42 PM ET
The LTIR cap is a joke and should be changed in order to stop a team like the Lightning from putting $12 mil in cap space on LTIR to load up with free agents. Then magically have their injured players healthy to play in the playoffs now with a cap space of $95 mil. Come on GM's open your eyes.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 8 @ 1:46 PM ET
This unfairly could punish legit injured players oreven push them to come back before healing. League should have an independent medical staff evaluation. If the say person good to play but team says no... they couldn’t towards the cap.
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