Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.20.2013
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Iggy will hate to read that Leon's scoring 5v5 is actually higher without Connor.
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Iggy will hate to read that Leon's scoring 5v5 is actually higher without Connor. - HB77
#BlameChiarelli |
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Iggy, Jero, HB, JB, Reveen, Laughs, Schwein and of course GiftOfGod...
Let the sucking of it commence.
EDIT: Bobby you too. |
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Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you. Joined: 05.26.2016
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Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you. Joined: 05.26.2016
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First.
Iggy, Jero, HB, JB, Reveen, Laughs, Schwein and of course GiftOfGod...
Let the sucking commence. - TheTaoOfSemenko
Not fist, but a strong showing otherwise. |
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Iggy will hate to read that Leon's scoring 5v5 is actually higher without Connor. - HB77
I am sure he has an argument prepared for this very eventuality. |
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First.
Iggy, Jero, HB, JB, Reveen, Laughs, Schwein and of course GiftOfGod...
Let the sucking of it commence.
EDIT: Bobby you too. - TheTaoOfSemenko
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Iggy will hate to read that Leon's scoring 5v5 is actually higher without Connor. - HB77
Wowy from stats.hockeyanalysis.com
Drai when on ice with. 5 on 5
MCDAVID, CONNOR
Toi. Gf60 Ga60. Gf%. Cf60. CA60. Cf%
347:09 3.11 2.25 58.1 64.12 47.18 57.6
Drai apart
Toi. Gf60 Ga60. Gf%. Cf60. CA60. Cf%
464:0. 2.33 2.5 47.4. 52.87 55.20 48.9
McDavid without Drai
Toi. Gf60 Ga60. Gf%. Cf60. CA60. Cf%
581:1 3.20 1.75 64.6 59.88 53.06 53.0
Tell me again how Drai is not doing better with McDavid than without and McDavid is benefiting from Drai???
These numbers don't bear that out. Add in the pp time and it's even more scewed to show he benefits greatly from being on with McDavid. |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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I am sure he has an argument prepared for this very eventuality. - Wildschwein
Yup.its called facts. Not cherry picking some crap. |
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Yup.its called facts. Not cherry picking some crap. - Iggysbff
You never disappoint. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Wowy from stats.hockeyanalysis.com
Drai when on ice with. 5 on 5
MCDAVID, CONNOR
Toi. Gf60 Ga60. Gf%. Cf60. CA60. Cf%
347:09 3.11 2.25 58.1 64.12 47.18 57.6
Drai apart
Toi. Gf60 Ga60. Gf%. Cf60. CA60. Cf%
464:0. 2.33 2.5 47.4. 52.87 55.20 48.9
McDavid without Drai
Toi. Gf60 Ga60. Gf%. Cf60. CA60. Cf%
581:1 3.20 1.75 64.6 59.88 53.06 53.0
Tell me again how Drai is not doing better with McDavid than without and McDavid is benefiting from Drai???
These numbers don't bear that out. Add in the pp time and it's even more scewed to show he benefits greatly from being on with McDavid. - Iggysbff
I didn't 'tell you' anything
Take issue with matt if you don't like his numbers.
What I read from the article is that in a 5 on 5 situation per every 60 minutes Leon draisaitl has a higher scoring rate playing without mcdavid than he does with .
Are you implying that's matts numbers are wrong ?
I haven't looked so they very well may be. But I doubt it
Also, Leon scoring on the pp is a good thing not a bad thing |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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You never disappoint. - Wildschwein
Are the facts I posted incorrect? Do they not show Drai greatly benefiting from McDavid and not the other way around?
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Are the facts I posted incorrect? Do they not show Drai greatly benefiting from McDavid and not the other way around? - Iggysbff
Regardless of matts numbers or anything else, no one will argue playing alongside a generational talent doesn't help a guy.
There's no player on the NHL it wouldn't help
But the narrative is that Leon is a quality player with or without him. Potentially a great one.
And I believe that's beyond debate |
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McSavioursPupil
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF Joined: 12.11.2015
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First.
Iggy, Jero, HB, JB, Reveen, Laughs, Schwein and of course GiftOfGod...
Let the sucking of it commence.
EDIT: Bobby you too. - TheTaoOfSemenko
Nice location. |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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I didn't 'tell you' anything
Take issue with matt if you don't like his numbers.
What I read from the article is that in a 5 on 5 situation per every 60 minutes Leon draisaitl has a higher scoring rate playing without mcdavid than he does with
Are you implying that's matts numbers are wrong ?
I haven't looked so they very well may be. But I doubt it
Also, Leon scoring on the pp is a good thing not a bad thing - HB77
I love Drai too. But take him off the pp with McDavid and he struggled as much as others. Ive said it before. It's great that he compliments McDavid well. It's not always easy to find players that mesh with superstars. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. But don't try to make it out to be something it's not. The numbers I posted show he is far better with McDavjd than without. And McDavid is just as good or better without him. |
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Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you. Joined: 05.26.2016
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Yup.its called facts. Not cherry picking some crap. - Iggysbff
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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I love Drai too. But take him off the pp with McDavid and he struggled as much as others. Ive said it before. It's great that he compliments McDavid well. It's not always easy to find players that mesh with superstars. I'm. It saying it's a bad thing. But don't try to make it out to be something it's not. The numbers I posted show he is far better with McDavjd than without. And McDavid is just as good or better without him. - Iggysbff
Leon scores more 5v5 per60 without him.
Posting corsi numbers doesn't change those scoring rates |
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McSavioursPupil
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF Joined: 12.11.2015
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Regardless of matts numbers or anything else, no one will argue playing alongside a generational talent doesn't help a guy.
There's no player on the NHL it wouldn't help
But the narrative is that Leon is a quality player with or without him. Potentially a great one.
And I believe that's beyond debate - HB77
You don't realize who you are talking to.
iggy mctroll will debate anything that will bring darkness upon the Oilers, just because Chiarelli
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Leon scores more 5v5 per60 without him. - HB77
Look at the numbers I posted.
3.11 gf60 with McDavid. 2.33 gf60 without.
So no he does not. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Look at the numbers I posted.
3.11 gf60 with McDavid. 2.33 gf60 without.
So no he does not. - Iggysbff
So matts numbers are incorrect ?
Matt you got some 'splainin to do
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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So matts numbers are incorrect ?
Matt you got some 'splainin to do - HB77
My numbers come direct from stats.hockeyanalysis.com. wowy stats.
Conner scores at a higher rate without Drai and allows less goals against without Drai.
So clearly it shows Drai is the one benefiting from the pairing.
But these numbers aren't absolute either because all of these stats are inherently flawed. They don't take into account who ELSE was on or off with each at those times which can effect things obviously. |
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Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you. Joined: 05.26.2016
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So matts numbers are incorrect ?
Matt you got some 'splainin to do
Or are you just posting goals per60 while matt posted points ? Which wouldn't change matts point at all and still shows that Leon gets more points without Connor. - HB77
Iggy's numbers are spot on.
http://stats.hockeyanalys...pid=1993&withagainst=true |
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McSavioursPupil
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF Joined: 12.11.2015
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So matts numbers are incorrect ?
Matt you got some 'splainin to do
Or are you jus posting goals per60 while matt posted points ? Which wouldn't change matts pount and all - HB77
I think this just shows how poor it is to look at a player, and the game, strictly through the lens of advanced statistics.They can be skewed a dozen ways to prove the point you want to make, as statistics do in general. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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My numbers come direct from stats.hockeyanalysis.com. wowy stats.
Conner scores at a higher rate without Drai and allows less goals against without Drai.
So clearly it shows Drai is the one benefiting from the pairing.
But these numbers aren't absolute either because all of these stats are inherently flawed. They don't take into account who ELSE was on or off with each at those times which can effect things obviously. - Iggysbff
are you just posting goals per60 while matt posted points ? Which wouldn't change matts point at all and still shows that Leon gets more points without Connor. |
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