Jeremy Laura: Is Hronek now “not likely to re sign” in Vancouver?

Jeremy Laura: Is Hronek now “not likely to re sign” in Vancouver?
- Jeremy Laura

But I wasn't done with your last blog!!!

Just wanted to add that we are indeed stepping into the great unknown.

A huge question is how Title IX will affect the new normal.

Do you have to pay female athletes the same amount as male athletes?

Interesting times.

But I wasn't done with your last blog!!!

Just wanted to add that we are indeed stepping into the great unknown.

A huge question is how Title IX will affect the new normal.

Do you have to pay female athletes the same amount as male athletes?

Interesting times.
- Atomic Wedgie

Thank you for crossing over on this so I could see your comment. This is where things get tricky. in the 90s at the University I was at the football team brought in 70% or more of the revenue. The hockey program was probably a break even or less. Gymnastics was losing money, but the men’s was losing more than the women’s. That men’s program was cancelled and one of my residents had to transfer. When I talk about how the “pie” is sliced, it’s in relation to all of this. Also, are the recruiting expenditures already paid out of that? If you look at hard numbers, at that University Basketball brought in much less than football. However, regardless of the incoming dollars, it’s a bad look to divvy up based on that. Where 70% would go to football and sports that don’t generate revenue have no income. I think that, along with that issue, recruitment is going to take a turn. it’s not under the table stuff now. Athletes may look at compensation. Can private schools pay more in some cases? How will State universities regulate disbursement? I’m glad it’s not on my shoulders to figure that one out

They brought back McDonough. Callahan is an announcer now.

Love your stuff. Stamkos is not leaving Tampa. Don't put it passed him to take a 1MM one year deal, so they can add another solid piece, then next year he and Hedman extend 5 years at 4 or 5 a year.

He wants to win cups. He is not going elsewhere. ZERO chance.

They brought back McDonough. Callahan is an announcer now.

Love your stuff. Stamkos is not leaving Tampa. Don't put it passed him to take a 1MM one year deal, so they can add another solid piece, then next year he and Hedman extend 5 years at 4 or 5 a year.

He wants to win cups. He is not going elsewhere. ZERO chance.
- TrueGrit

Thanks for that! I agree, Stamkos is not leaving. They’re just trying to clear some space. I don’t think he’d take a 1m deal, would gladly be wrong but I think he will come in around that 4-5m mark. The team has 18 players currently but looking to make moves. Hedman expires next year. Same thing. Hard to imagine him elsewhere.

Agreed. Stammer's the type of guy with enough honour to "take one for the team". That type of loyalty is incredibly rare these days. TPA is in decline, however. So I wonder what they can/will do to have 1 more year to make a run.

Thewhole "paid collegiate athletes" can of worms is open & squirming. The landscape will quickly change, and what we knew will be a very distant memory. How that happens is the mystery. But will be painful to watch. Do we see Unis become Sports Only and Academic Only? Will be interesting to watch, but very painful. Now that betting is such a huge part of sports, even on collegw games, would expect Unis to take a chunk of the take on that as well....

I would think Veleno, Danielson and Gibson would be a fair exchange for Hronek

I would think Veleno, Danielson and Gibson would be a fair exchange for Hronek
- Reubenkincade

I doubt Danielson is going anywhere. Today was the first time I’ve heard that he’s even potentially in play. Even if pieces were lined up his salary ask may not work. Vancouver was said to be looking at Necas if Lindholm moved on. Canes letting Pesce go to free agency may make room for Hronek

Agreed. Stammer's the type of guy with enough honour to "take one for the team". That type of loyalty is incredibly rare these days. TPA is in decline, however. So I wonder what they can/will do to have 1 more year to make a run.

Thewhole "paid collegiate athletes" can of worms is open & squirming. The landscape will quickly change, and what we knew will be a very distant memory. How that happens is the mystery. But will be painful to watch. Do we see Unis become Sports Only and Academic Only? Will be interesting to watch, but very painful. Now that betting is such a huge part of sports, even on collegw games, would expect Unis to take a chunk of the take on that as well....
- mcmastermike1968

It’s a potential mess for sure. Just get some popcorn.

I had a fan quote from a different source that he wanted to stay in Calgary. Lindholm ended up moving on as Calgary retools.

Who precisely is that? Both Friedman and Seravelli said Lindholm explicitly was not interested in signing an extension last off-season in CGY for a contract close to $70m in total. Lindholm probably lost tens of millions in not signing the insane offer from Conroy last off-season.

I would think Veleno, Danielson and Gibson would be a fair exchange for Hronek
- Reubenkincade

So you think Yzerman would pay more for Hronek than what he traded him for a year ago which was a mid round 1st and a 2nd for Hronek and and a 4th?

Then he would also have to pay him way more on top of that...yeah i don't think so. If he was willing to pay Hronek what he wants to play behind Seider on the 2nd pair, he wouldn't have traded him in the first place. I think Yzerman is done with Czech players.

This also doesn't even take into account that in your deal, Detroit doesn't get rid of any salary or defensemen with salary and still have to get rid of Holl somehow and if he wants to make the defense better Petry too.

Who precisely is that? Both Friedman and Seravelli said Lindholm explicitly was not interested in signing an extension last off-season in CGY for a contract close to $70m in total. Lindholm probably lost tens of millions in not signing the insane offer from Conroy last off-season.
- jfkst1

Here’s the link: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=122519

From the post on 8/10/23 with the title starting: Svech to Russia. This is the quote from Kevin R after I’d commented on rumors of multiple players not wanting to extend in Calgary:

Sounds like Lindholm is on side with extending in Calgary according to Pagnotta yesterday. Speculation Flames offer is 8 by $8.2mill & Lindholm is looking for 8 by $9.5mill. Probably a deal starting with a 9 will do it & to me best comparable is Barzal's numbers & his deal. I think it gets done. Hanafin will be moved. He would be in your top pairing. Would love to see either Edvinsson or Raymond & a top 10 protected 2024 1st come back for an extended Hanafin.

Backlund will get us a late 1st from a contender at the TDL but to trade him now if Conroy just wanted the cap space maybe a 2nd & 3rd would work for us.

So you think Yzerman would pay more for Hronek than what he traded him for a year ago which was a mid round 1st and a 2nd for Hronek and and a 4th?

Then he would also have to pay him way more on top of that...yeah i don't think so. If he was willing to pay Hronek what he wants to play behind Seider on the 2nd pair, he wouldn't have traded him in the first place. I think Yzerman is done with Czech players.

This also doesn't even take into account that in your deal, Detroit doesn't get rid of any salary or defensemen with salary and still have to get rid of Holl somehow and if he wants to make the defense better Petry too.
- dcz28

The only circumstance where Hronek to the Wings works is exactly what you’ve encompassed. Salary has to be moved, the $ have to be right. The market is going to be jammed. GM’s saying they are going to “spend differently” etc. the cap isn’t the only issue. Internal budgeting will come into play, and we may see fewer teams with max rosters.

The only circumstance where Hronek to the Wings works is exactly what you’ve encompassed. Salary has to be moved, the $ have to be right. The market is going to be jammed. GM’s saying they are going to “spend differently” etc. the cap isn’t the only issue. Internal budgeting will come into play, and we may see fewer teams with max rosters.
- Jeremy Laura

Yeah i don't see Yzerman spending a lot of salary on someone to play behind Seider. That likely mean Pesce is a no go from the start even if they could get rid of Holl. More likely that he looks for someone to complement Edvinsson on the right side like maybe Tanev or someone like that that is a top 4 RHD but can be signed for less years and cheaper in the 3 to 5 mil range...providing he can get rid of Holl.

I think some teams will still overpay some UFAs. That's just how it goes every July but i think a select few will get what they want (high price and term) while the rest will get offered less than what they thought they would like Bertuzzi last summer. Guys like Stamkos (short term with his age), Reinhart, Guentzel, Pesce, Montour and maybe Lindholm if they hit the market can get some big deals. Kane will probably get 5 or 6 mil on a short term deal but they rest shouldn't be that expensive or need long term deals.

I really hope Yzerman can find a way to fix his mistakes with Holl and Petry and improve the defense because they will likely lose a lot of goals in UFAs walking out.

Here’s the link: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=122519

From the post on 8/10/23 with the title starting: Svech to Russia. This is the quote from Kevin R after I’d commented on rumors of multiple players not wanting to extend in Calgary:

Sounds like Lindholm is on side with extending in Calgary according to Pagnotta yesterday. Speculation Flames offer is 8 by $8.2mill & Lindholm is looking for 8 by $9.5mill. Probably a deal starting with a 9 will do it & to me best comparable is Barzal's numbers & his deal. I think it gets done. Hanafin will be moved. He would be in your top pairing. Would love to see either Edvinsson or Raymond & a top 10 protected 2024 1st come back for an extended Hanafin.

Backlund will get us a late 1st from a contender at the TDL but to trade him now if Conroy just wanted the cap space maybe a 2nd & 3rd would work for us.
- Jeremy Laura

A random poster mentioning a random article doesn't make a remotely reliable source. Friedman and Seravelli both stated Lindholm had no interest in extending in CGY and that is exactly what played out. I'd be very skeptical on him receiving those massive contracts after his last season of very disappointing play.

A random poster mentioning a random article doesn't make a remotely reliable source. Friedman and Seravelli both stated Lindholm had no interest in extending in CGY and that is exactly what played out. I'd be very skeptical on him receiving those massive contracts after his last season of very disappointing play.
- jfkst1

Ok. I said Lindholm was on the move. A fan disagreed. You asked who and I gave it to you. That’s more than a little disingenuous on your part. That was from last year, as I said. Fans disagree. I went on the info I had and disagreed. You asked for it. There it is. Instead of seeing that what I quoted a fan as saying was true you say it’s just some random fan. The point is it was said by the fan and I went back and got you the receipt.

Thinking that Van would be better off doing a double sign and trade Lindholm for Necas.
Lindy gets 8 x$8.5M and Necas gets 8 x $7.5M

Thinking that Van would be better off doing a double sign and trade Lindholm for Necas.
Lindy gets 8 x$8.5M and Necas gets 8 x $7.5M

- HenryHockey

Something has changed. Hronek was a guarantee weeks ago. Necas was plan B for Lindholm. I don’t know what has changed or why. Curious to see Pesce on the market. Feels like new names pop up daily. Strange days

Something has changed. Hronek was a guarantee weeks ago. Necas was plan B for Lindholm. I don’t know what has changed or why. Curious to see Pesce on the market. Feels like new names pop up daily. Strange days
- Jeremy Laura

I proposed that they move Demko and then have Silovs and a veteran from FA ( could be DeSmith, Kahonen, Ned, Broisant, Stolarz, Wedgewood, Talbot or Samsonov take over the crease at less cost. Then they would have enough to spend on re-signing Linholm, Hronek and Z plus a couple FA's. Bold move for sure, but a good 1B goalie from FA could be had because the Nucks are a contender now!

Edit: Maybe move Demko for one of: Necas, Mercer +, Trevor Moore, Cowan or Minten. A couple of these moves would not save much, but would still improve and give them a better, younger team.

Or forget all that and move Demko next year if Silovs turns out to be the one that takes over the crease, which is a safer move, but you lose one of Z, Lindholm or Hronek.

Not happening!!

What changed with Hronek is that it became apparent in the playoffs that you cannot have 2 undersized D on your top pair.